I posted this on Club Lexus as well, just trying to get as many perspectives as I can.
New here, and would be new to a GX460
I've bought other luxury brand CPO vehicles and they all were purchased 100% issue free. It seems Lexus has a very different idea of/standard for CPO/whats acceptable for dealers to sell as "the best used Lexus vehicles" then I do. The things that are deemed "not a problem", problems don't effect the sale price at all, i.e. dealers charging top dollar (well over KBB).
For example, I had my own mechanic do a PPI and one of the things found was "Small oil seepage at oil cooler hose". When i asked a service writer if that was something that should have been caught during CPO inspection, and if that should have been fixed and/or caused the CPO certification to have failed, I was told "It depends. If it's just wet, it would pass (as if a bad hose, or cracked cooler is perfectly acceptable to Lexus) as long as it falls within guidelines. Apparently there's some pictures of a continuum, and depending on how bad the leak is, they either pass the inspection, or, if the leak is dripping, only then will they consider it bad enough that they'll fix it.
From my perspective, If I'm paying 53k OTD (Luxury Sport trim), I expect the vehicle to be issue free. I understand its a used vehicle, but its not like I'm buying it for 20k less from a generic used car lot, or from a private seller. I don't feel I should be paying a premium to a dealer and for a CPO warranty if there are issues that aren't covered by the warranty, or will manifest to a much worse issue, but might not before the warranty expires.
Other issues are:
What looks like a electrical fire or something that caused the upper dash board to deform somewhat as well as the DTS and other switches in that cluster. I feel they should replace it.
Both front tires outer edges are very worn. I think they should replace the tires and do an alignment
TWO different store ECU-P1603 codes(engine cutoff without the ignition key) - I get the battery change can throw this, but I'm surprised there's TWO, and Lexus service didn't clear the codes, since its a common thing, and anyone smart enough to do a PPI would see the codes.
Potential issues (i couldnt due these functions, so it might just be me.
Running board light - I couldnt see them, but it was during the day. I placed my foot all around, on top and bottom, but no light was visible.
Remote start
headlight washers wouldnt work (dont remember if I had lights on or not)
Center Diff wouldnt lock
the "auto" select between recirculate air and outside air cant be selected.
*There are also a few chips in the paint and some scratches I'm hoping will "buff out"(wet sand, etc,)
Am I out of line/in the wrong for expecting a 53k CPO vehicle to be issue free leaving a dealership, or paying top dollar for a vehicle and still needing to pay another 5k+ to get the vehicle in "issue free" condition?
Disclaimer - This is my 1st time buying a vehicle in the state I'm living, and maybe this is "normal" for the area. As in people dont raise a fuss /accept anything when they buy used vehicles so dealers know they can get away with it.
thanks in advance for your feedback
New here, and would be new to a GX460
I've bought other luxury brand CPO vehicles and they all were purchased 100% issue free. It seems Lexus has a very different idea of/standard for CPO/whats acceptable for dealers to sell as "the best used Lexus vehicles" then I do. The things that are deemed "not a problem", problems don't effect the sale price at all, i.e. dealers charging top dollar (well over KBB).
For example, I had my own mechanic do a PPI and one of the things found was "Small oil seepage at oil cooler hose". When i asked a service writer if that was something that should have been caught during CPO inspection, and if that should have been fixed and/or caused the CPO certification to have failed, I was told "It depends. If it's just wet, it would pass (as if a bad hose, or cracked cooler is perfectly acceptable to Lexus) as long as it falls within guidelines. Apparently there's some pictures of a continuum, and depending on how bad the leak is, they either pass the inspection, or, if the leak is dripping, only then will they consider it bad enough that they'll fix it.
From my perspective, If I'm paying 53k OTD (Luxury Sport trim), I expect the vehicle to be issue free. I understand its a used vehicle, but its not like I'm buying it for 20k less from a generic used car lot, or from a private seller. I don't feel I should be paying a premium to a dealer and for a CPO warranty if there are issues that aren't covered by the warranty, or will manifest to a much worse issue, but might not before the warranty expires.
Other issues are:
What looks like a electrical fire or something that caused the upper dash board to deform somewhat as well as the DTS and other switches in that cluster. I feel they should replace it.
Both front tires outer edges are very worn. I think they should replace the tires and do an alignment
TWO different store ECU-P1603 codes(engine cutoff without the ignition key) - I get the battery change can throw this, but I'm surprised there's TWO, and Lexus service didn't clear the codes, since its a common thing, and anyone smart enough to do a PPI would see the codes.
Potential issues (i couldnt due these functions, so it might just be me.
Running board light - I couldnt see them, but it was during the day. I placed my foot all around, on top and bottom, but no light was visible.
Remote start
headlight washers wouldnt work (dont remember if I had lights on or not)
Center Diff wouldnt lock
the "auto" select between recirculate air and outside air cant be selected.
*There are also a few chips in the paint and some scratches I'm hoping will "buff out"(wet sand, etc,)
Am I out of line/in the wrong for expecting a 53k CPO vehicle to be issue free leaving a dealership, or paying top dollar for a vehicle and still needing to pay another 5k+ to get the vehicle in "issue free" condition?
Disclaimer - This is my 1st time buying a vehicle in the state I'm living, and maybe this is "normal" for the area. As in people dont raise a fuss /accept anything when they buy used vehicles so dealers know they can get away with it.
thanks in advance for your feedback
