I am going to be getting a trail gear sas kit next month. I am 99% sure I'm getting the 3 inch. Just wonderin.g if any of you guys could tell me how any of the trail gear sas kits worked out for you. Any tips would be really nice too. This is the first sas I have ever done and am really anxious to start on it. Thanks
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have you looked into all-pro off roads sas kit , not sure of any other than that
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Yes I've looked into all pro. But their kit isn't as complete as trail gears. And I looked at marlins kit also and it all seems to be the same stuff just priced for a few hundred more. But if anyone has a legitament reason why I should get a different kit I will take it into consideration. Being as its my first sas and you guys that have done it before know much more then I. I want it to be done right the first time but I'm also on a 4k budget for now unless money magically appears in my wallet...
I have looked into this a good bit and I will agree that Trail-Gear does sell the most complete kit on the market and aside from the typical Trail-Mart comments, I haven't seen too many bad comments about their stuff.
The only thing I will throw out there is that I am guessing that you are looking at the 3" kit to try to stay as low as possible, correct? From what I have seen and read their springs are pretty stiff and even with the 3" kit, 35's look a little out of place. Due to the frame shape and limited amount of room for the high steer I am guessing they keep the lift enough to prevent them from getting into the frame at full flex.
If you had the time, you could probably source parts and be able to put together the necessary parts on your own for a bit less, but in the end you might end up nickling and diming yourself to death on the little stuff. If I ever get a chance to do an SAS, I will probably put together my own kit, but I am looking to keep it super low and may have to do some frame mods to achieve my end result....
Too Many Irons and not enough Fire....
Looking forward to following your build.
The only thing I will throw out there is that I am guessing that you are looking at the 3" kit to try to stay as low as possible, correct? From what I have seen and read their springs are pretty stiff and even with the 3" kit, 35's look a little out of place. Due to the frame shape and limited amount of room for the high steer I am guessing they keep the lift enough to prevent them from getting into the frame at full flex.
If you had the time, you could probably source parts and be able to put together the necessary parts on your own for a bit less, but in the end you might end up nickling and diming yourself to death on the little stuff. If I ever get a chance to do an SAS, I will probably put together my own kit, but I am looking to keep it super low and may have to do some frame mods to achieve my end result....
Too Many Irons and not enough Fire....
Looking forward to following your build.
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I have thought about putting together my own kit but the very little I did look into it I could tell it would probably be best for me to just stick with the kit. When I was searching the other day I did come across a guy who used the all pro hanger and its supposed to have about 1 inch less lift then TG's spring hanger. I have seen some pics online and some people who have used the tg 3 inch seem to sit higher/lower then others who have used the exact same kit. I just don't want my yota to sit so tall it dwarves 37s. I'm not a fan of tall yotas at all. The build will HOPEFULLY start the middle to end of next month. Thank you and any more input on this topic would be greatly appreciated
try reading here , https://www.google.com/search?q=tra...a:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs you will get a better understanding
Knowing both companies....
Marlin kit maybe a few dollars more but I can say this.... wheeling with him, wrenching, and hanging at events his supports says alot for his support of the sport & his customers.
Then trail gear, never supported a event Ive been too & ive been to a TON over last 13 years. Seem to knock off products others invent, wow easy to do when you dont have R&D in products.
Guess yes Marlins kit is more expensive but Ill say this; stuck in garage trying to work thru a issue, marlin will help, good luck getting trail gear to walk you thru things.
Marlin kit maybe a few dollars more but I can say this.... wheeling with him, wrenching, and hanging at events his supports says alot for his support of the sport & his customers.
Then trail gear, never supported a event Ive been too & ive been to a TON over last 13 years. Seem to knock off products others invent, wow easy to do when you dont have R&D in products.
Guess yes Marlins kit is more expensive but Ill say this; stuck in garage trying to work thru a issue, marlin will help, good luck getting trail gear to walk you thru things.
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I know very little of either trail gear or marlin crawler, or even all pro for that matter. The entire reason I was leaning towards trail gear is because of how complete their kit is. I don't have a favorite because I've never went thru either of them. Honestly I don't believe in getting what everyone else tells me to get. But this is one thing I definatly want others opinions on. I'm still shopping around. From what I've been hearing lately is tg just copied marlin. Just what I've heard though so idk.
Does Marlin even sell SAS kits anymore? The last time I even saw a link on his site it had a hyperlink to AllPro. I just popped over there real quick and I don't even see any links to SAS kits anymore.
And to OP, buying a kit will get you everything and will likely save you a good bit of cash. I have parts from all over on my list. Front Range, OME, Marlin, TG, Radflo... And I promise you my total in parts is probably twice what the TG or AP kit is.
And to OP, buying a kit will get you everything and will likely save you a good bit of cash. I have parts from all over on my list. Front Range, OME, Marlin, TG, Radflo... And I promise you my total in parts is probably twice what the TG or AP kit is.
I personally like the all pro kit. The forged crossover steering arms are sweet. All pro was pretty much the first company to come out with crossover steering and the solid axle kit. Trail gear does have some original products and their stuff is of decent quality but as far as the sas kit goes I would go with the original.
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Idk if marlin sells them because I went to their site last night to shop around and there was a link to all pro. Idk what's going on there. I know at the beginning of last year there was still kits on their site. As far as all pro I've heard a lot of good things about them but the kit I found on their site has about 1/4 the stuff as tg has in theirs. Correct me if I'm wrong. One thing that did interest me about allpro is I heard somewhere that their front spring hanger didn't as. Much. Lift as trail gears. Don't know if this is true or not though.
I think Marlin got out of the SAS business.
I just did a quick comparison and it looks like the TG kit does come with the stuff to rebuild the axle as well as a gusset and diff armor. So if you are planning to rebuild the axle then TG would give you that.
I have heard good things about the AP springs.
I guess it will come down to if the difference is worth the $140 price difference in the kits and a axle service kit to you.
I just did a quick comparison and it looks like the TG kit does come with the stuff to rebuild the axle as well as a gusset and diff armor. So if you are planning to rebuild the axle then TG would give you that.
I have heard good things about the AP springs.
I guess it will come down to if the difference is worth the $140 price difference in the kits and a axle service kit to you.
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I just went on the all pro website and looked around. And yeah the only difference is the axle rebuild kit is in tg kit but not all pro. And also the tg kit has 3 4 and 5 inch lift springs while the allpro kit has 4 5 and 6. But the front hanger on tg is 2 inch drop while allpro is 1.5. I don't want my yota to be so tall that 35s would look completely out of place. But I also just want to use the kit and I don't want to have to fab my own stuff. I'm decent at welding but far from decent at fabbing things. But I guess it all depends on how far the springs settle. If the allpro kit is proven to be better I would spend the extra coin to get it, then just source the axle rebuild kit. There's no point in doing a sas if I'm not gonna do it right. I'm going to do the rear axle while I'm at it also. The axle shafts are bent from getting hit a few years back. Looked around online for the stuff to rebuild the rear and its expensive but it has to be done.