To front auto, or not?
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Keith, I managed to do mine. It's really not hard, it's just time consuming.
Sean,
Could you possibly EXPAND on this statement a bit for me?
What did you do, how did you do it what problems did you encounter and what was so time consuming about?
Looking at it, it seems that all I have to do is remove the carrier, pull the pin throw the new sssssshtuff in and put it back together the way it was.
Would I really be messing with the pattern if Im not doing anything to the pinion? How is the backlash set?
Im really nervous about this one...
Didnt really want to have to mess with the diff this much if I didnt have to.
I thought it would be MUCH simpler, but the 4.88 blew that away...
K
Sean,
Could you possibly EXPAND on this statement a bit for me?
What did you do, how did you do it what problems did you encounter and what was so time consuming about?
Looking at it, it seems that all I have to do is remove the carrier, pull the pin throw the new sssssshtuff in and put it back together the way it was.
Would I really be messing with the pattern if Im not doing anything to the pinion? How is the backlash set?
Im really nervous about this one...
Didnt really want to have to mess with the diff this much if I didnt have to.
I thought it would be MUCH simpler, but the 4.88 blew that away...
K
The good news is that the pinion depth is set and you don't have to worry about that part. The part that will get you is because the carrier location is set with the side adjusters, you can't take it apart and put it back together without changing the set. With a Dana axle that uses shims, you just have to make sure that everything goes back together the same way you took it apart. With yours, you will have to adjust everything back and check the pattern and backlash. I have the dial indicator and stand for doing that part.
To adjust the pattern, you just have to move the adjusters to get the carrier where you want it. Basically, put it back together, adjust it until the pattern is correct and you are set. Once assembled, you won't have to take it apart to make any adjustments, just turn the side adjusters until it is where it should be.
I would recommend taking a before pattern picture so that you can re-create the pattern. Like Shawn said, time consuming.
Jack
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WEEEEEELLLL....
I BAILED! Ended up taking it in to the man (Dean @ driveline service in Carson City).
I called him and asked if it would be a big deal for me to do the install, and have him reset it...He advised against it, so it could be re set to what it was. So I dropped it off this AM, and can pick it up tomorrow.
I donno what the hell I doing, so I figure that its best to leave it in the hands of someone who does.
I know...Im a
K
I BAILED! Ended up taking it in to the man (Dean @ driveline service in Carson City).
I called him and asked if it would be a big deal for me to do the install, and have him reset it...He advised against it, so it could be re set to what it was. So I dropped it off this AM, and can pick it up tomorrow.
I donno what the hell I doing, so I figure that its best to leave it in the hands of someone who does.
I know...Im a
K
Actually I would have done the same so i guess we are both...I know...Im a
K
They way I look at it learning about this stuff is like drinking out of a fire hose, you can only take so much in at once.
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Actually I would have done the same so i guess we are both
They way I look at it learning about this stuff is like drinking out of a fire hose, you can only take so much in at once.
Rusty...I donno what it was about that "fire hose" statement above, but I laughed OUT LOUD when I read it!
Yeah...if Id have tried it, Id have no way of being 100% confident that I did the re set right, and I really didnt want to find out the hard way.
K
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UMMMMMM, yeah...I probably could have done it myself!
He let me hang out today while finishing up which was re installing the carrier, ring gear etc...Didnt look all too hard with the spanner nuts.
I start re assembly tomorrow!
Cant frickin wait to try it out!
K
He let me hang out today while finishing up which was re installing the carrier, ring gear etc...Didnt look all too hard with the spanner nuts.
I start re assembly tomorrow!
Cant frickin wait to try it out!
K
I run a front locker in an older Ford with a ttb and they are supposed to have the worst powersteering known to man. Personally it's not too bad unless you are in 4wd and driving on hard surface, then it's like having manual steering. You have to maintain forward or rearward movement to turn the thing easily. Great thing is that you can pop it out of 4wd and turn easily if you are on hard surface.
BTW if you have a spanner type diff, it's easy to take the carrier out and put it back in. Measure the backlash if you can, then mark the spanner nuts with a punch. Loosen the bolts, turn the nuts a little, count how many holes you moved them. Pull the caps leaving the nuts in the case with the case securely standing on the pinion, pull the carrier out, hoping to not move the nuts. Do your thing, put it all back together. If something happens, you can usually put the carrier back in, turn one of the nuts the required number of turns, then snug up the other side. As long as only one side falls out, you are o.k. If they both fall out, that's where the backlash adjustment comes in. Just run it up on both sides till you get the number you are looking for.
BTW if you have a spanner type diff, it's easy to take the carrier out and put it back in. Measure the backlash if you can, then mark the spanner nuts with a punch. Loosen the bolts, turn the nuts a little, count how many holes you moved them. Pull the caps leaving the nuts in the case with the case securely standing on the pinion, pull the carrier out, hoping to not move the nuts. Do your thing, put it all back together. If something happens, you can usually put the carrier back in, turn one of the nuts the required number of turns, then snug up the other side. As long as only one side falls out, you are o.k. If they both fall out, that's where the backlash adjustment comes in. Just run it up on both sides till you get the number you are looking for.
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Went wheeling today with the new set up, in the hills behind the house....!
HUGE difference in traction right outta the box. Im actually quite surprised at the turning ability with it in. You know its there for sure, but its really not that bad. Just a little more resistance at the wheel. Where I noticed the biggest difference is when I played on some of the boulders up behind Damonte. Heres where you feel both the positive and negatives of the auto up front. It requres a lot more effort when bound up to steer, but...youre up and over with ease. Im curious to see how it does on Barrett lake trail.
K
!HUGE difference in traction right outta the box. Im actually quite surprised at the turning ability with it in. You know its there for sure, but its really not that bad. Just a little more resistance at the wheel. Where I noticed the biggest difference is when I played on some of the boulders up behind Damonte. Heres where you feel both the positive and negatives of the auto up front. It requres a lot more effort when bound up to steer, but...youre up and over with ease. Im curious to see how it does on Barrett lake trail.
K