TJM T13 Bull bar installed - Lots of pics

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@kcjaz is correct. Maybe @tampacruiser95 is confused since he bought his bumper in 2018.

@se7en10 sport asked about the newer model T13 (for 2016+ 200 Series) on an older 200 Series (08-15). Looking at @tampacruiser95 profile pic, what you have there is an older model T13 (08-15) on a 2008. TJM considers all the bumpers for the 200 Series T13, but the bumpers for 08-15 and 16-21 are completely different bumpers. The 2016+ bumper was redesigned to follow the lines of the 2016+ 200 Series front end redesign. They have a full replacement and bumper cut versions for the 2016+ (in addition to an alloy and another version without large hoops). So, the 2016+ T13 is not a bolt on for earlier 08-15 200 Series models. The 16-21 T13 on a 08-15 would involve serious modification and probably would not ever look right given the differences in the front ends. The 16+ bumper cut version might be less work to fit on a 08-15, but it doesn't retain the stock washers and looks quite a bit different (more like 08-15 model). Links below to show the differences between the T13 versions.


08-15 TJM T13

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16-21 TJM T13 (full replacement)

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16-21 TJM T13 (bumper cut)

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With the spacer, it will rub behind it.
I know this is an old post but I just noticed it as I was flipping through the thread after replying to a recent question. I'm not seeing how the line will "rub behind" the spacer if its used. The slot seems bigger than the slot in the fairlead. What am I missing? Maybe its true and I can't just go look at my truck now because its in a different place but I used the spacer with my winch install (synthetic) because I thought you had to have the fairlead "proud" of the bumper itself and not recessed. I also don't think I'm the only one who has done this (doesn't mean its right though). Do I need really need to remove the spacer?

Hey @Markuson, did you use the "spacer"? Sure looks like it or is that where the 1.5" thick F55 fairlead ends up?

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I know this is an old post but I just noticed it as I was flipping through the thread after replying to a recent question. I'm not seeing how the line will "rub behind" the spacer if its used. The slot seems bigger than the slot in the fairlead. What am I missing? Maybe its true and I can't just go look at my truck now because its in a different place but I used the spacer with my winch install (synthetic) because I thought you had to have the fairlead "proud" of the bumper itself and not recessed. I also don't think I'm the only one who has done this (doesn't mean its right though). Do I need really need to remove the spacer?

Hey @Markuson, did you use the "spacer"? Sure looks like it or is that where the 1.5" thick F55 fairlead ends up?

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I do have Factor55’s thicker fairlead… no spacer…but I’m not sure if we’re talking about the same version T13’s.

My is for 2008-2015. A couple I see referenced above look like the 2016+ which has different fairlead surrounds.
 
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I so have Factor55’s thicker fairlead… no spacer…but I’m not sure if we’re talking about the same version T13’s.

My is for 2008-2015. A couple I see referenced above look like the 2016+ which has different fairlead surrounds.
Thanks. Mine is also 2008-2015. I’ll just have to look at it this weekend. I was thinking that TJM “spacer” was 2 or 3” deep. Without it, my Warn fairlead would be pretty deep in the bumper.
 
I looked at my winch this weekend and don’t see any way the line can rub on the spacer behind the fairlead. I’m using the spacer with the Warn fairlead. I pulled some line out and pulled it back while holding the line at angles so that the line was against the left/right ends of the fairlead and watched as the line wrapped on the drum. Even with the line at the ends of the drum, there is no rubbing because the spacer slot is wider than the fairlead.

in my case, if I were to remove the spacer, my fairlead would be recessed in the bumper and would cause a rub on the bumper with the line at extreme angles to either side.
 
Hey, Gents. doing research on bumper options and the TJM13 is top of my list. In reading through this thread, it seems that stock functionality generally remains (radar cruise, camera, headlight washer, etc). Can anyone confirm? I would prefer to not relocate the front camera and would like to keep the beep beep sensors as possible :)
 
Hey, Gents. doing research on bumper options and the TJM13 is top of my list. In reading through this thread, it seems that stock functionality generally remains (radar cruise, camera, headlight washer, etc). Can anyone confirm? I would prefer to not relocate the front camera and would like to keep the beep beep sensors as possible :)
It all works (mine is 2013 so 2008 - 2015 TJM design). Can't directly speak to >2016 but I believe it all works. The only thing with the front camera is that while it works in the stock location, its not as useful because the bumper sticks out pretty far which limits the view of the camera. Relocating it is not a big deal. Plenty of info on that in this forum.
 
Hey, Gents. doing research on bumper options and the TJM13 is top of my list. In reading through this thread, it seems that stock functionality generally remains (radar cruise, camera, headlight washer, etc). Can anyone confirm? I would prefer to not relocate the front camera and would like to keep the beep beep sensors as possible :)
If you have a 2016+, everything works but the camera is blocked some. I have not done it yet but will be looking at relocating the camera on my 2016+ T13 soon.
 

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