Mechanical advantage for the win! Looks great, now bring it down here and get that rust started again 
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NC12 was open for awhile and folks were feeling lucky, high tide today put them in their place. NCDOT is doing a great job ruining equipment and managed to get it open again at low tide. It's blowing a gale and the house is shaking; see what tomorrow brings.
Yea, great job men.
The video is hilarious
. You just lack a guy in white body makeup wrenching on the engine trough the windshield and you could sell this as a Mad Max movie trailer.
Can't wait to see it completed again. Fingers crossed
the glass work goes smooth and nothing breaks.
Cheers Ralf
The video is hilarious
. You just lack a guy in white body makeup wrenching on the engine trough the windshield and you could sell this as a Mad Max movie trailer.Can't wait to see it completed again. Fingers crossed
the glass work goes smooth and nothing breaks.Cheers Ralf
I just realized this looked a lot like one I was watching on auction a while back. Just went and checked… yup! It is.
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theglobb
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I swear this thread has to be one of the most emotionally turbulent threads on mud. Massive wins and massive losses on every other page lol.
I dropped the troopy off for a glass guy to put the windsheild back in, cause you know, I didn't wanna crack it installing it on my own, cause you know, they didn't sell these things here in America and a windshield would be a pricey thing to break. The drive there at 8am was absolutely freezing, 39 degrees outside plus whatever wind chill from having no windshield.
He proceeded to say that it won't be covered because the glass and weatherstripping was not bought through him with his supplier. So close to being finished with this and getting it back on the road and of course this happens. I don't have the spare funds at the moment to even try to think about buying a new windshield, let alone the cost of shipping something like that across the ocean, and then the idiotic tariff stuff going on here in the US aswell.
If anyone has a lead on a cheap windshield out of a rusted-out or wrecked fixed-frame 70 series here in the USA, please let me know. I'll have to put some feelers out there on the classifieds and hope I get lucky. Until then, the troopy will likely sit for the next month or two unless I get really desperate and caulk in some lexan "windshield"
I would like to recognize that sh!t happens and more so, I rewelded that entire windshield frame. There is no way it's going to be 100% correct, that being said it is pretty dang close and to deny covering the damages that he caused is beyond me.
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I dropped the troopy off for a glass guy to put the windsheild back in, cause you know, I didn't wanna crack it installing it on my own, cause you know, they didn't sell these things here in America and a windshield would be a pricey thing to break. The drive there at 8am was absolutely freezing, 39 degrees outside plus whatever wind chill from having no windshield.
The guy calls me back around 4pm and says he cracked the windshield trying to install it... Well that really sucks, hey at least insurance will cover it. NOPE!Fingers crossed
He proceeded to say that it won't be covered because the glass and weatherstripping was not bought through him with his supplier. So close to being finished with this and getting it back on the road and of course this happens. I don't have the spare funds at the moment to even try to think about buying a new windshield, let alone the cost of shipping something like that across the ocean, and then the idiotic tariff stuff going on here in the US aswell.
If anyone has a lead on a cheap windshield out of a rusted-out or wrecked fixed-frame 70 series here in the USA, please let me know. I'll have to put some feelers out there on the classifieds and hope I get lucky. Until then, the troopy will likely sit for the next month or two unless I get really desperate and caulk in some lexan "windshield"
I would like to recognize that sh!t happens and more so, I rewelded that entire windshield frame. There is no way it's going to be 100% correct, that being said it is pretty dang close and to deny covering the damages that he caused is beyond me.
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Yea, VERY glad I didn't head down y'all's way. Was the right choice to not go. Should be heading your way after I get off work this Thursday!
Correct, funny you recognized the dyna from BAT. I wish it had a 14bt or really anything other than the 3L in it. It is such a dog, slower than the troopy with the original 3B was. In the mountains, it's a dog, but back where it spends most all of its time with my dad at the beach, it does the job just fine. Plus its pretty sweet to have a crew cab 4x4 version of them.
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theglobb
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Alright, I may have been a tad bit overdramatic. At least I really hope so.
I went on partsouq after a tip from my dad leading me in this direction. The part numbers for a 1987 BJ75 windshield are NLA, but it gives modern substitutions. After plugging them into my local toyota dealers website, it says they are available and one of them is cheaper than I had ever expected.
There is nothing that specifies why the price difference is so much more on one compared to the other. The part numbers are almost identical. If anyone has more knowledge about the difference, please feel free to let me know.
It gets even better as they are having some 25% off sale of all genuine toyota parts you buy online for the next 2 days or so. Making the price EVEN cheaper.
This may be an amazing breakthrough where I can be able to afford one much sooner than I had originally thought, AND not pay for insane shipping costs. Would have never guessed they would be available in the USA from Toyota. Still sucks immensely that it broke while being installed. There's nothing I can do to change that it happened, no reason to dwell on it. If anyone who is more knowledgeable than I can see any reason why this windshield wouldn't work let me know. I'll be ordering it within the next 24 hours.
I went on partsouq after a tip from my dad leading me in this direction. The part numbers for a 1987 BJ75 windshield are NLA, but it gives modern substitutions. After plugging them into my local toyota dealers website, it says they are available and one of them is cheaper than I had ever expected.
There is nothing that specifies why the price difference is so much more on one compared to the other. The part numbers are almost identical. If anyone has more knowledge about the difference, please feel free to let me know.
It gets even better as they are having some 25% off sale of all genuine toyota parts you buy online for the next 2 days or so. Making the price EVEN cheaper.
This may be an amazing breakthrough where I can be able to afford one much sooner than I had originally thought, AND not pay for insane shipping costs. Would have never guessed they would be available in the USA from Toyota. Still sucks immensely that it broke while being installed. There's nothing I can do to change that it happened, no reason to dwell on it. If anyone who is more knowledgeable than I can see any reason why this windshield wouldn't work let me know. I'll be ordering it within the next 24 hours.
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You should print out the web page with the higher price and take it to the glass breaker and tell him he owes you.
Many many people read your posts. He would not want you to publish his name, business name, etc.
I’ll be happy to call him and tell him to pay you.
Many many people read your posts. He would not want you to publish his name, business name, etc.
I’ll be happy to call him and tell him to pay you.
IMO unless he disclosed to you beforehand (he should've) then he should take some responsibility. It was a used windshield and the the remodeled frame so maybe a 50-50 split on the cost on the one you get presumably the lowest price one to be fair.
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Can Mr. Glassbreaker get you a replacement? He's in the glass business, after all. If he can, he should be able to make you a deal on it since he broke the last one. Because he'd be providing the glass, you'd have nothing to worry about re: paying for it if he breaks it again. Probably be cheaper than OEM Toyota, too. Just a thought.
Arrrgggg. Well.. Head up.
Try to find a reputable and (!) big autoglass company and let them source it. The risk of shipping and fitting is all on their side then.
I got mine sourced by the autoglass company- for that very reason- .
They got it, including gasket, no problem within 3days - for a 1985 BJ73.
There are aftermarket sources available! Here in Europe e.g. from Saint Gobain (that's what mine is from)
Good Luck Ralf
Windshields on 70 series are available everywhere easy enough except in the US . To top that off the troopies have a tendency to indeed crack windshields on installation probably because the frame is no longer the same exact shape then it was when new . Anyone who had the pleasure of installing a windshield in a troopy will agree with me , I remember Steve Jackson buying 3 windshields from me for the same troopy and cracking every one of them . I always try to install them in a warm place and will heat up the rubber gasket by either laying it outside in the TX sun or in winter time keeping it close to a heater . I can do them by myself but it is easier with 2 people and starting in the driver side lower corner working your way around . I have sold many of the cheaper aftermarket windshields but unfortunately I have only 1 left and that needs to go in my troopy soon . The OEM glass is stronger then the aftermarket options though and for the bigger fixed windscreens this makes a difference , for the fold down windshield frames that are smaller both oem and aftermarket feel the same .
Super valuable info here.
theglobb
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Here she lays
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Spent some of the other time today putting some other trim back on here and there, along with the hood, new hood release cable, etc etc.
and sat in the drivers seat just wishing I could drive it even though this sucks, its always important to remind myself that I'm beyond lucky for this to be my biggest problem in my life at the moment. I mean I'm sitting in my troopy looking at a Dyna and a old Willy's covered up by a tarp. A free FJ60 and Plymouth Volare are to my right. I'm much more fortunate than many others out there.
1 windshield from Partsouq or really anywhere overseas comes out to roughly $700... Yea nope, not happening. The US dealers which for some reason have it, were having some pretty crazy markdowns ontop of that 25% off sitewide deal. Figured roughly $220 for a windshield that costs $409 usually ontop of no shipping cost is pretty hard to beat. Thats cheaper than most windshields in general, let alone 70 series OEM in America. I bought one for me and one for @svsisu who will pick it up from our shop in Wilmington at somepoint. We both figured it was too good of a deal to pass up I would have bought 2 for myself personally but dont have that kind of money on me right now to do so sadly.
Current gameplan is to take it to this super nice repuatable classic car glass shop and see if they can work their magic and get it in place. If this next windshield breaks then I'll just say F* it and throw a broken one in with a bunch of caulk everywhere to keep it water and wind tight. I'm not letting something as stupid and idiotic as this keep me from driving this thing after all this time, work, and money I have put into it in order to get it back on the road.
Most of the time I'm all for vigilante justice when it is warranted. At first glance I thought this was a totally warranted situation for it but after seeing how the windshield frame was warped/dented in a couple of places I find myself more on the fence. I should have grabbed the windsheild before and beat the frame in or out where it might not have been totally flat such as @coldtaco mentioned. I also called around to other glass shops and after asking about thier warranty policy they all dont cover glass that the customer provides even if its all OEM stuff. The guy installed the other glass I had brought there for free and didn't charge me for his entire day of wasted labor. I feel like it was a mutally lose-lose situation for the both of us. Maybe I'm still just being too forgiving? Don't really know what the industry usual is for something like this.
Yea it wasnt disclosed to me but as mentioned above, apparently thats just industry standard to not cover unless the glass shop got it from their supplier?
He said "I'm not messing with this Jap bullsh!t no more, tried to get it in all day and then it broke on me. Not touching it again"
Yup, keeping my head up is about all I can do in this situation. I spent roughly 3 hours today calling all of the autoglass shops in a 2 hour radius of me trying to find anyone who could source a windsheild for this thing, either by defintion or cross referencing part numbers in their systems. No one could come up with anything, and all said they would be happy to try installing mine again but would offer no warranty on glass they themselves didnt source. I'm at somewhat of a Catch-22 it feels like.
thank you for this wealth of information. If I do go down the route of gambling with another glass shop, I'll be printing this out and giving it to them. If the glass guys are breaking it, I think it would be foolish for me to try and even think about installing it on my own.
Spent around 2 hours today doing this after reading your suggestion, thanks for the idea. Wish I would have thought of that sooner. There werent too many places but definetly some that would have not helped installing an apparently already diffucult to install windshield. Had to touch up the paint after aswell, as alot of the paint got all messed up while bashing it.
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Spent some of the other time today putting some other trim back on here and there, along with the hood, new hood release cable, etc etc.
and sat in the drivers seat just wishing I could drive it
even though this sucks, its always important to remind myself that I'm beyond lucky for this to be my biggest problem in my life at the moment. I mean I'm sitting in my troopy looking at a Dyna and a old Willy's covered up by a tarp. A free FJ60 and Plymouth Volare are to my right. I'm much more fortunate than many others out there.1 windshield from Partsouq or really anywhere overseas comes out to roughly $700... Yea nope, not happening. The US dealers which for some reason have it, were having some pretty crazy markdowns ontop of that 25% off sitewide deal. Figured roughly $220 for a windshield that costs $409 usually ontop of no shipping cost is pretty hard to beat. Thats cheaper than most windshields in general, let alone 70 series OEM in America. I bought one for me and one for @svsisu who will pick it up from our shop in Wilmington at somepoint. We both figured it was too good of a deal to pass up
I would have bought 2 for myself personally but dont have that kind of money on me right now to do so sadly.Current gameplan is to take it to this super nice repuatable classic car glass shop and see if they can work their magic and get it in place. If this next windshield breaks then I'll just say F* it and throw a broken one in with a bunch of caulk everywhere to keep it water and wind tight. I'm not letting something as stupid and idiotic as this keep me from driving this thing after all this time, work, and money I have put into it in order to get it back on the road.
My guess is that there’s not many old school glass guys out there, so putting this glass in is not there cup of tea.
I would try to put it in myself before I let someone else break it.
Obviously I have never done a troppy but have done old school glass before with great success. Slow an easy with one person inside and one out.
Joe said he can do them by myself. With help I think you can do it.
Sounds like the first guy was pretty fair about the whole thing now that I have heard all the details.
I’m all about being fair !
I would try to put it in myself before I let someone else break it.
Obviously I have never done a troppy but have done old school glass before with great success. Slow an easy with one person inside and one out.
Joe said he can do them by myself. With help I think you can do it.
Sounds like the first guy was pretty fair about the whole thing now that I have heard all the details.
I’m all about being fair !
Or some plexiglass if all hell breaks looseHere she lays
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Most of the time I'm all for vigilante justice when it is warranted. At first glance I thought this was a totally warranted situation for it but after seeing how the windshield frame was warped/dented in a couple of places I find myself more on the fence. I should have grabbed the windsheild before and beat the frame in or out where it might not have been totally flat such as @coldtaco mentioned. I also called around to other glass shops and after asking about thier warranty policy they all dont cover glass that the customer provides even if its all OEM stuff. The guy installed the other glass I had brought there for free and didn't charge me for his entire day of wasted labor. I feel like it was a mutally lose-lose situation for the both of us. Maybe I'm still just being too forgiving? Don't really know what the industry usual is for something like this.
Yea it wasnt disclosed to me but as mentioned above, apparently thats just industry standard to not cover unless the glass shop got it from their supplier?
He said "I'm not messing with this Jap bullsh!t no more, tried to get it in all day and then it broke on me. Not touching it again"
Yup, keeping my head up is about all I can do in this situation. I spent roughly 3 hours today calling all of the autoglass shops in a 2 hour radius of me trying to find anyone who could source a windsheild for this thing, either by defintion or cross referencing part numbers in their systems. No one could come up with anything, and all said they would be happy to try installing mine again but would offer no warranty on glass they themselves didnt source. I'm at somewhat of a Catch-22 it feels like.
thank you for this wealth of information. If I do go down the route of gambling with another glass shop, I'll be printing this out and giving it to them. If the glass guys are breaking it, I think it would be foolish for me to try and even think about installing it on my own.
Spent around 2 hours today doing this after reading your suggestion, thanks for the idea. Wish I would have thought of that sooner. There werent too many places but definetly some that would have not helped installing an apparently already diffucult to install windshield. Had to touch up the paint after aswell, as alot of the paint got all messed up while bashing it.
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Spent some of the other time today putting some other trim back on here and there, along with the hood, new hood release cable, etc etc.
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and sat in the drivers seat just wishing I could drive it
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1 windshield from Partsouq or really anywhere overseas comes out to roughly $700... Yea nope, not happening. The US dealers which for some reason have it, were having some pretty crazy markdowns ontop of that 25% off sitewide deal. Figured roughly $220 for a windshield that costs $409 usually ontop of no shipping cost is pretty hard to beat. Thats cheaper than most windshields in general, let alone 70 series OEM in America. I bought one for me and one for @svsisu who will pick it up from our shop in Wilmington at somepoint. We both figured it was too good of a deal to pass up
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Current gameplan is to take it to this super nice repuatable classic car glass shop and see if they can work their magic and get it in place. If this next windshield breaks then I'll just say F* it and throw a broken one in with a bunch of caulk everywhere to keep it water and wind tight. I'm not letting something as stupid and idiotic as this keep me from driving this thing after all this time, work, and money I have put into it in order to get it back on the road.
Not optimal, but there are companies that make very nice lexan windshields to your specs… if it turns out your frame is too tweaked for glass.
May have to run lots of RainX and try to use the wipers as little as possible though.
May have to run lots of RainX and try to use the wipers as little as possible though.
Dude like those DOnut guys on youtube say Cars are pain. There is always car drama!
Going through all my glass drama on my samurai, I think Glass shops now dont usually deal with window gaskets on cars anymore because I think most vehicles the glass is glued in. Dude I just got word yesterday that they got my windshield finally got installed on the samurai frame. Its been almost 6 weeks that they have had it. Eastern auto glass will not be doing my windshield on the 55 I can tell you that much. They didn't get my OEM Suzuki glass in because they were "scared they would brake it" so they cut their own glass then told me "your glass was better quality than ours". The thing is they could have ground down my glass I would think? IDK the whole thing was a nightmare. The kicker is I still don't know what the price is. My mother in law is picking it up for me today. She is an angel.
My plan was to go lexan if they could not get glass installed. like @thatcabledude said above.
Hey man looking forward to your visit to the OBX!
Going through all my glass drama on my samurai, I think Glass shops now dont usually deal with window gaskets on cars anymore because I think most vehicles the glass is glued in. Dude I just got word yesterday that they got my windshield finally got installed on the samurai frame. Its been almost 6 weeks that they have had it. Eastern auto glass will not be doing my windshield on the 55 I can tell you that much. They didn't get my OEM Suzuki glass in because they were "scared they would brake it" so they cut their own glass then told me "your glass was better quality than ours". The thing is they could have ground down my glass I would think? IDK the whole thing was a nightmare. The kicker is I still don't know what the price is. My mother in law is picking it up for me today. She is an angel.
My plan was to go lexan if they could not get glass installed. like @thatcabledude said above.
Hey man looking forward to your visit to the OBX!