the flip-over, ICBC, and the JDM directive

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The flip.

Our flip-over during the last day drip was much unexpected, as a Subaru could make it through that part of the trail… I have learned the hard way of the danger of diff lockers.
Having seen how hard it was for other vehicles present to climb the icy hill (excluding the EBI wagon); I left the factory installed lockers ON while descending the eagle ridge trail on our way back, (big mistake, which should be discussed during our next meeting).
Having the front locker ON, I lost about 70% of the steering travel (this is just my impression of it as I have never driven with a front locker “ON” before). My 80 climbed the bank of the trail and before I could react it tipped over…

I phoned ICBC the next day and reported a claim, explaining exactly what, and where the accident happened. I found out today that I was covered under the insurance. The snorkel, on which the truck rested, probably saved the windshield and the “A” pillar from being damaged and possibly saved the truck from being written off.

Where are the pictures?

The JDM directive.

Most claims related to JDM vehicles involve Skylines. High powered and highly abused cars (the sport of drifting) combined with young drivers probably makes for this statistic.
These models never being sold in NA are expensive to repair due to the lack of parts available here. The ICBC directive is to try to write all JDM Nissan models of, if possible. This includes the Safari (sorry John). Mitsubishi Dellica vans having low claims are not included. There is no mention of such action to be taken against Toyota trucks and cars either.
 
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good to hear marcin...sounds about right that since the skylines, patrols etc arent available in NA, at least LC body parts are shared with the LX and of course the US spec 80's. when JP toyota was looking for a roof replacement for my truck, there was only 1 in NA new. luckily, abby pro truck & van recyclers had an LC to cut from, saving me from getting it written off.

where exactly was your flip? kinda hard to tell in the pic posted on the other thread. driving with lockers in the snow is sketchy indeed...esp in the front, since the tires by nature will break grip on the terrain once you go anywhere thats not a straight line...
 
Thanks for the update and clarification on ICBC and JDMs Marcin.

I was in Pro-Truck the day after the roof was taken looking for some stuff; checked the seats of that exact truck.

gb
 
that's good that there going to fix it . are you going to loose much on you icbc discount?
for pics i don't have any my camera died have way threw the trail. but some one got to have pics of it after we got it back on its wheels. i saw a lot of cameras around that day. as for clint with the big fancy video camera it might take a while hes go to get a part fixed. so its stopping him from putting it on the computer.
so is it going to be all nice and shinny for the next meeting or are you going to show the rest of the guys first?
 
Sorry to hear about your flopping the 81, thing you can do to prevent it but you gotta think fast, pull the shifter into neutral gain steering or of course unlock the lockers.


Wonder how many 81s are in the wreckers?
 
Lockers could be partially blamed on Nick's roll over two years ago as well. The truck climbed the bank like it wasn't even there!!
 
Both times I dumped my 40 on it's side the front locker was on. I try to preach the dangers of running the front locker, I find it isn't lack of steering, it's the fact that it'll climb a wall until it tips over. When you don't have the locker engaged, as soon as one tire losses traction forward momentum ceases.
GG
 
My flop had nothing to do with lockers,just stupidity.My veiw on lockers is that they are a progresive thing to be used in the last resort.Not able to get up that hill or over that obstical in 4 low then try it with the rear locker,still not able then kick in the front.Once you made it,kick them both off and carry on.
 
Well, I have had two claims so far and there have been no issues - sort of. One from when a kid backed into the side of my truck in a parking lot and the other when the wheel came off. I still haven't settled with ICBC on the damaged rim. The estimator had a very bad attitude towards all JDMs.

I would love to have a copy of that ICBC directive. Is there anything in writing Marcin? With Nissan providing full parts support, I can get every part required for my truck within 2 weeks at the same pricing levels (or cheaper) they would have to pay for a Nissan Fontier.

Anyways, I am glad they are fixing your truck.
 
hey greg, what year colour was it? ive been meaning to check it out after work...

Don't rightly remember. I was looking for Taco rear drive shafts to pilfer the double carden, and they mentioned they just cut the roof off a Land Cruiser at the Queen St yard. Figured it was worth a look at the front leather seats and rear hatch shocks. Full of snow now though.

gb
 
John,

It is a recent directive.
I do not have anything on paper as a proof for what I said. It is good You have a spare parts truck.


Merry Christmas to all the friends from, and members of Coastal Cruiser!!!


Cheers!
 
i didn't realize a front locker could be so dangerous. here i am saving up for two lockers...

front lockers are not dangerous, spools can be though. Basically thats what a cable locker,elctric locker and ARB are, is selectable spools

difference.

A locker will "ratchet" around corners or while turning

A spool is solid, and will not ratchet. unless turned off, which then it is "open"

If you ever watch rock crawlers, most of the high end trucks have a front ARB. and when turning or backing up they will amlost always be turned off;)
 
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