is there a steering damper stabilizer & adjustment steering sleeve available for the FJC?
steering stabilizer & steering adjustment sleeve?
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FirstToy said:
On my ram in addition the the damper, it has an adjustment sleeve for the steering that doesn't affect the alignment. Its only for adjusting the steering.
Jim_Chow
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Doesn't the 4runner/FJC/Prado platform use rack & pinion steering? If so, no steering damper. That's on trucks w/ recirculating ball steering (SFA trucks, IFS trucks up to '95). My old 4runner has this.
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Jim_Chow said:
Your right, usually recirculating ball steering have damper available. Though I don't see why it cannot be used on rack&pinion. IFS, has no baearing. My IFS Isuzu trooper back in the early 90's had recirc ball steering and damper.
ron570 said:
Where are you going to put the damper? It would have to be connected to the tie rod. Also there is no drag link with rack and pinion steering with which to adjust the steering wheels position. The steering wheel center needs to be adjusted by adjusting the toe on each side.
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Darwood said:
why then would they put a rack and pinion on an off-road vehicle? The amount of travel over rocks climbing mtns, will put tremendous stress on the rack.
Also, as my vehicle is properly aligned, can I adjust the tie rods-both in the same direction the same amount of turn-to straighten wheel?
ron570 said:
If you adjusted both side the same amount you would only achieve less toe or more toe depending on which way you went. To straighten the wheel one side needs to be adjusted more than the other. I really have no idea how one can do this without an alignment rig.
The procedure would be to put the truck on the alignment rig with the steering wheel centered. Then adjust the toe so that it is the same for both sides and in spec.
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Darwood said:
This procedure doesn't work. If someone has to sit in the vehicle while its being aligned to hold steering wheel straight, then that added weight throws off adjustment.
Jim_Chow
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As Darwood mentions, the toe on either side is different. This is necessary since the roads tend to slope outward for drainage. The difference is a predetermined offset in the tenths of a degree. The toyota tech at SouthBay Toyota (down the street from USA headquarters) once should me on the alignment machine. There's no way you can get this accuracy yourself. The alignment grid in the FSM is for those who live in some Developing country and the nearest dealer is a two days' drive away and have to do it yourself.
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I understand the toe being different on both sides, but if you adjust both sides in the same direction, ie.. both going to same left direction, you really aren't affecting the toe. If you were to turn one left and the other right, then you are changing toe.
The alignment machine has no way of knowing what is the steering wheel center, only the wheel center.
ron570,
How can we help you get the info you need?
There is no dampner avail that I know of, and alignment should really be done by professionals w/ up to date equipment as a DIY will not get it as precise.
Please specify what you are looking for beyond this and we can try to get you the answer.
How can we help you get the info you need?
There is no dampner avail that I know of, and alignment should really be done by professionals w/ up to date equipment as a DIY will not get it as precise.
Please specify what you are looking for beyond this and we can try to get you the answer.
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ron570,
How can we help you get the info you need?
There is no dampner avail that I know of, and alignment should really be done by professionals w/ up to date equipment as a DIY will not get it as precise.
Please specify what you are looking for beyond this and we can try to get you the answer.
Maybe I'm not explaining correctly. An alignment has nothing to do with centering the steering wheel. It only centers & aligns the drive wheels themselves. Once wheels are aligned, how do you adjust STEERING WHEEL, not drive wheels?
Jim_Chow
V8_Fan
On the 100 series, you can adjust the rack itself w/o affecting the alignment (turning the adjusting bolts in opposite direction on either side, with each turn corresponding to about 12 deg of the steering wheel, IIRC from the FSM). I'm sure there's something "equivalent" for the FJC/4runner platform.
Where you get it???