Spare Tire
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That's an expensive spare alloy wheel (full size) that comes stock. See if they can give you a price break for not having it.
Also, whatever spare they give you, make sure it at least has the same overall diameter as the rest of your tires, otherwise you risk damaging the fulltime 4WD system if you ever have to use the spare.
Also, whatever spare they give you, make sure it at least has the same overall diameter as the rest of your tires, otherwise you risk damaging the fulltime 4WD system if you ever have to use the spare.
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You mean...ask for cash instead of them providing me a spare?
Well, I did find someone on a local classifieds that is selling a full set of 4 2000 LC factory alloys with tires for $400 firm. I offered to buy only one for $200, but he said no.
Should I just buy this set so I don't have to worry about messing up my 4wd system with the use of the steel spare tire? And, what do you mean by the same overall diameter? Do you mean that the spare tire needs to be the same tire size and/or rim size?
Well, I did find someone on a local classifieds that is selling a full set of 4 2000 LC factory alloys with tires for $400 firm. I offered to buy only one for $200, but he said no.
Should I just buy this set so I don't have to worry about messing up my 4wd system with the use of the steel spare tire? And, what do you mean by the same overall diameter? Do you mean that the spare tire needs to be the same tire size and/or rim size?
if you are only going to use it sparingly as a spare, it doesn't matter much what size the rim is as long as it fits the lugs and the brakes, IF the outside diam of the tire is the same as the others...
if the OD if the tire is not the same, it's still usable in an emergency but you should go slow and maybe stop frequently to be on the safe side...?
Anyway, best to have it the same rim and tire as the other ones...
E
if the OD if the tire is not the same, it's still usable in an emergency but you should go slow and maybe stop frequently to be on the safe side...?
Anyway, best to have it the same rim and tire as the other ones...
E
A steel spare to the same specs is no problem except that you will be carrying that extra weight around all the time. I would try a rim and hubcap shop for the alloy spare ( or any alloy wheel with the right bolt pattern and size[not much for 100 cruisers outside of oem]) and any good tire shop can hook you up with a cheap used tire the right size and in good condition. As long as the the tire is the same size (275/70 R16 or whatever) as your others it will make a good spare - no damage is going to happen to the 4wd system from limited use of a different tire. The drivetrain is designed to have small diffences in travel on each wheel all the time (except when locked up).
OK, well to answer your original question better, whether a steel rim would be strong enough or not would depend on its specs, not to be too obvious, so you take your truck weight, divide by 4 and see if that maches the load spec of the wheel - and do the same for the tires btw.
But in general terms it is incorrect to assume that a steel wheel will be weaker because it looks made of thinner material. Many Toy trucks come with steel wheels in their base version - but I don't know whether that was true for the 100 though.
Also you must have the backspacing / offset right on the wheel or it may not clear the brakes. That is also a published spec for all wheels and easy to measure.
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But in general terms it is incorrect to assume that a steel wheel will be weaker because it looks made of thinner material. Many Toy trucks come with steel wheels in their base version - but I don't know whether that was true for the 100 though.
Also you must have the backspacing / offset right on the wheel or it may not clear the brakes. That is also a published spec for all wheels and easy to measure.
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Good point. Also, make sure it will clear the calipers, as well.
Yes, base 100 Series in other countries had steel wheels. But if it's not OEM Toyota, I'd check the specs closely.
Yes, base 100 Series in other countries had steel wheels. But if it's not OEM Toyota, I'd check the specs closely.
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Steel wheels are prefereable for hard-core offroading since if you get a dent, you can pound out the dent w/ a hammer. If that were to happen w/ alloys, the wheel is shot. I'd get the set of 4 wheels for $400 provided you can get a $400 price markdown on the rig. Price out a new wheel at the dealer and tell the seller, either you reduce the price by $400 or buy me a new wheel from the dealer (likely a LOT more than $400).
if this is a used rig, of course, all is open to negotiations.
FWIW, what I would do it tap into the dealer's worst nightmare: Liability!
Tell him that it is definitely unsafe to have a non-OEM non-matching wheel and that Toyota says not to do this. I'm pretty sure must be in the manual someplace.
And hint subtly that if you were to have an accident with the spare on, he'd be up the creek...
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FWIW, what I would do it tap into the dealer's worst nightmare: Liability!
Tell him that it is definitely unsafe to have a non-OEM non-matching wheel and that Toyota says not to do this. I'm pretty sure must be in the manual someplace.
And hint subtly that if you were to have an accident with the spare on, he'd be up the creek...
E
I just bought my LC and the owner installed the Lexus 18" wheels and didn't bother with the spare, so I may sell my 16" spare , and look for an 18" , let me know if anybody is interested.
Standard LC100s come with steel 16" x 6" rims. the middle spec 100s (GXL) come with 16" x 8" steel wheels as most people in Australia would seem to prefer to use these than alloys for outback driving or very rocky areas. If you option up to the alloys on the GXL model you only get 4 alloys and the steel spare stays the same. I dont think you have standard or GXL models in the US.
Regards tonym.
Regards tonym.
I forgot to say in my firstpost that if the wheel fits and the tyre is the same overall diameter or pretty close it will be okay to use to get you out of trouble even if it is not the same width. Just drive sensibly if you use it and put your correct wheel back on as soon as you get it fixed.
Are you sure that would be a good idea?
I would think it a bad idea on the front for sure, maybe not so bad in the back.
I would think it a bad idea on the front for sure, maybe not so bad in the back.
