Seafoam report / hypothesis and knock ! (1 Viewer)

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hi all,
trying to get things up to snuff in our 80, i did the seafoam thing last night. SLOWLY poured 1/3 can into pcv hose as engine running, making sure not to pour enough to hydrolock. turned off 10 min. then back on. really, there was very little smoke and i was happy, thinking it's clean. then decided to do it again, just for good measure--- the second (and third) time after startup, it smoked like mad. after trying to discern whether there was any difference, i've concluded ... it's hard to tell. the engine ran completely smoothly BEFORE and revved with no stumbles, etc... and does that now. i SUSPECT that some of us looking for an improvement rev the engine AFTER the treatment and note how smoothly it runs, etc. but don't do the same things BEFORE, thereby not comparing. just my .02

as point of interest, did the seafoam to my LS400, too. first time smoked, etc. then second time, as i turned off ignition, it kept running for about 6 secs and made a 'horrible' clanking, knocking sound a few times. i shuddered as i pondered how i was going to explain the $2,000 of hydrolock damage we'd just done to my wife...i waited, then started up to a few knocks, shut down, started again to one knock, down, then up and runs fine. after reflecting, i THINK what was happening was pre-ignition knock, not mechanical. seafoam is obviously flammable and a lot would ignite perhaps in the combustion chamber, like ignition knock does. it cleared itself as described and didn't make a sound after many starts, stops, running, etc...

one last point--- we're putting the stuff into a hose that sucks from the engine constantly. that hose constantly sucks up engine oil fumes and possibly small amounts of oil, right? is it possible that we're just freeing/ cleaning that oil out of the pcv hose and the area directly aft? sucking all that dirty caked oil into the intake system, on to valves and the combustion chamber? of course it's going to smoke--- oil being burnt smokes. it doesn't neccesarily mean we're cleaning anything, just means we did something to get a lot of oily residue into the intake/combustion system.... maybe?

hope this adds to the myth/miracle/help of the stuff.
 
How could you get hydrolock by putting anything in the PCV valve hole.

Doesn't that hole go into the valve cover?

Isn't hydrolock caused when you have liquid that wont compress (water) in the cylinder so the piston can't make it's compression stroke?

What am I missing?

Edit - Oh, wait, I think I get it, you are putting the liquid into the hose that goes to the intake, so it is going into the cylinder with the intake air.

Sorry...

Charlie
 
You don't need to POUR the SeaFoam in, you slowly suck it up using the PCV hose.
I like sucking it up with the PCV valve as it gets cleaned as you suck through it.
The second time I did the SeaFoam, I went through the other PCV hose. THis way it cleaned the butterfly.

From what I understand the SeaFoam works on carbon. Don't know how well it works on oil crud from the PCV.
FI cleaner spray or DeepCreep from Seafoam should clean up the oil build up.

I think a can of BG44K in the gastank should do as good of a job as the SeaFoam through the intake.
 
yeah, i don't pour, just turn the hose horizontal and then slowly let it suck some out of the can as it's slightly tilted -- kind of pouring, but not really. the sucking kind of causes the liquid to swirl out of the can and kind of vaporizes as it sucks. in no case, should the hose be stuck down in the liguid, as i read someone did !! ARGG !!
 
Deep Creep is aerosalized Seafoam. Just picked up a few cans to do all my cars.
 
I put the Seafoam in a flat bottom dish and slowly suck up the fluid dipping it in and out.
 
I pour the Seafoam into a pint water bottle with the nipple spout on top, open the nipple, tip the bottle and hold it up to the hose.......it sucks it in perfect


hehehehehe I said nipple and suck :D
 

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