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Hey Micheal and Dave (land use guy)...

as our TLCA Delegate and PMC Land Use Chair (and being as I shot my wad on the BRC and FOTR donations), I'd like you two to visit this link to the Saving Tellico thread, and then motion that PMC Donate $100 to this effort, and in support of our fellow TLCA Chatper Club STLCA.

Roger Theurer (spelling) and other TLCA members are taking a very active approach to saving this unique OHV area. They are calling upon their fellow TLCA chapter clubs and fellow TLCA members for help, both financially and with letters.

John and I will be posting their letter template in the newsletter, and $100 should not break the bank.

I realize PMC's priority is our local CA trails, but Roger and Heather are also fighting a huge battle and are feeling very alone with all that is happening with land use these days. GSMTR has supported PMC and its time for PMC to return the favor.

thanks!
 
ok first to read.

I guess I will take this one, Dave can get the next "Tony Favor"

October meeting ok for this?
 
Here is the information that was posted in the other thread.

Hello everyone. THE TIME IS HERE to "Save Tellico."

I am Heather Spivey and I am leading the effort for SFWDA in the public forum. I hope that you will see my name a lot in the upcoming months because that means that we are getting our message out to the public. Working with the wonderful folks in SFWDA, BlueRibbon Coalition, and United Four Wheel Drive Association, we have responded to the NOI in the media and expect to have articles hitting the papers this week.

So, many of you have been showing your support on the various boards with posting articles you see and calling for supporters to comment on them. We have also seen a lot of questions asking how you can help. I have a list of things here that you can do to help. The only thing we ask is that you maintain professionalism whenever speaking or writing in a public forum. This board included. Remember that anyone can read what is written on the internet and in a paper and we need to maintain the moral highroad in order to keep the respect and trust of the USFS that SFWDA has worked so hard to gain over the years. This is an emotional issue for most of us, I know it is for me. But try to remember that if we are perceived as hot headed or aggressive, it will not serve us well in the end.

Things you can do to help save Tellico:

1) Support Rob and the folks on the ground working so hard with the USFS on a day to day basis. Please volunteer your time and resources to go to help on work days. I know it's hard to get away for a weekend or during the week for a few days, but your sacrifice now will help ensure access for the future.

2) Monitor the media. There is no way that we can see every article that comes out in the media. If you see something, please post it up here so we can read it and react if necessary.

3) Pay attention to the updates that we'll post up. There will come a time when we will need you to write letters to the FS expressing your concern for their actions and suggesting alternatives for them to consider. Again, professionalism is a must.

4) Join SFWDA. If you haven't already, please consider joining SFWDA. Donate money to help fund the fight to protect Tellico. http://www.sfwda.org/

5) Join BlueRibbon Coalition and United Four Wheel Drive Association. BRC and United have jumped in and are helping us at SFWDA through the legalities. Their resources are not bottomless and they need our support to continue fighting for true public access to public lands. http://www.sharetrails.org/ and http://www.ufwda.org/index.htm

6) TreadLightly! We need, more than ever, to practice sound environmental wheeling. But don't stop at just holding yourself to these ethics, hold others to them too. We need to be self policing. If you see folks out on the trails that are behaving irresponsibly, educate them as to what could happen if they continue their behavior. Remember that one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.

As I said above, there will come a time when we need more help. I will try to keep this thread up to date as things happen. I can’t tell you how much your support and help means to this effort, and I (and I think I speak for SFWDA as well) really appreciate your support as we move forward.


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Heather
'07 FJ Cruiser and 1973 FJ55

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Regarding the club donating we can ask at the meeting and vote on it. I think opening up the long term discussion about continuing to support Blue Ribbon and or United Four Wheel Drive Association would be good. There is a DEIS being reviewed in Moab, Utah as well that will surely require funds for legal support as well. Almost every location that allows OHV use is going to need support, which is why Blue Ribbon is great as they give support to multiple areas.

I checked the Tellico web site in the link above and they do not have any base letters drafted for down loading. That is one of the best ways for us to lend support is the ALL MIGHTY Tourism Dollar. Write letters on how we plan on visiting and staying in the area for vacation while we we enjoy their trails and if there are no trails open, we will not be going. When we go we stay in hotels (hotel tax), buy stuff (sales tax), buy gas (fuel tax), eat food (more tax) etc.

Just my rambling thoughts.
Dave
 
any discussion about long term support needs to involve one of PMC's primary goals... support organizations that support our local trails.
 
Agreed, long term support should definately be directed through PMC, and support the local trails, afterall this is were we wheel the most.

I also believe that helping Tellico is good for neighborly relations, you never know we may be in need of some support ourselves someday.

just my opinion :)
 
Template letter

Write A Letter To Save Tellico!

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FROM SFWDA, UFWDA, and BlueRibbon Coalition:
As you know, in response to the recent request of the Forest Service to comment on the two proposals to establish new Forest Supervisor’s Orders on the Upper Tellico Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) area, Southern, United, and BRC have enlisted the services of Carla Boucher and Paul Turcke to submit a formal response letter. In addition to that, we think it is important that you comment on the proposals as well. The request for comment is located here http://www.sfwda.org/trails/tellico/...o20070917.html for you to read. We are providing you with a template letter with the following suggested outline in preparing your letters and remind you to put it in your own words. We urge you to mail your letters in before the identified date of October 17, 2007.

Your letter should be mailed to:

US Forest Service
Nantahala National Forest
Tina Tilley, Tusquitee District Ranger
123 Woodland Drive
Murphy, NC 28906
Include the date
Include the file reference information (File Code: 2350-5/1950)
Include reference (Supervisor’s Orders on the Upper Tellico Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) Area
Tell them who you are and why you are writing
Give your general and specific comments including:
The importance of the Tellico area to recreation and surrounding communities and the effects the closures will have
Tell them why you think the specific trail closures (Action #1) on Lower Trail 2, Trail 7, and Trail 9 is not justified
Tell them why you think the proposed winter closure (Action #2) is not justified
If you know the science, then talk the science
Talk about how no data has been provided and ask for the scientific data on which the closures are being based
Talk about all the mitigation/maintenance work you/your group/Southern has done and continues to do
Talk about what Tellico means to you, why you and your family value it, how you practice Treadlightly!, how you participate in trail clean up, etc.
In conclusion, express your opposition courteously but strongly one last time
Include a statement of your support of the joint letter sent by Southern, United, and BRC.
Request you be added to further communications
Give your contact information
Signature

Please also remember to be courteous and substantive. In other words, “get it off my chest…” type comments are of little or no value. Finally, you need to keep a copy of your letter for future reference.

If you would like to use a TEMPLATE LETTER, here is one that you may cut and paste to use. PLEASE BE SURE TO ADD YOUR THOUGHTS IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH.

U.S. Forest Service
Nantahala National Forest
Tusquitee District Ranger
123 Woodland Drive
Murphy, NC 28906
INSERT DATE
RE: File Code : 2350-5/1950
Supervisor’s Orders on the Upper Tellico Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) Area
Dear District Ranger,
My name is YOUR NAME HERE and I am writing at to express my concerns about the above-referenced Supervisor’s Orders addressing vehicle use of the Upper Tellico OHV Area.

My understanding of the September 17, 2007 letter is that the Forest Service intends on enacting two new Supervisor’s Orders that will close the Upper Tellico OHV Area during the winter months, and will close specific trails (Upper #2, 7 and 9).
Trails Upper #2, #7, and #9 should not be closed. From your letter and from the research that has been conducted, there is no scientific evidence that the Tellico trail system or any one trail in particular, have any impact on streams in the area. The streams that were sampled originate above the OHV area, and samples were only taken down stream of the OHV area. In order to demonstrate that sediment load is coming from a specific area, it is necessary to sample the stream/river both upstream and downstream of the area.
With respect to seasonal closures of the entire area, your agency did not provide and I have not seen any proof that demonstrates the time of year is directly tied to increase potential for impacts. There is no data provided by your agency to suggest that sedimentation from January 1 to March 31 occurs at a higher rate than sedimentation during other months of the year, which makes a winter-time closure unfounded.
[Write a paragraph here about what Tellico means to you. Talk about what you do to preserve the area, talk about how your practice Tread Lightly and how you participate in trail clean up, etc.]
The OHV community is willing to support reasonable management prescriptions, but the Proposed Orders are not rationally connected to the proposed riding restrictions. A well-conceived and thoughtful planning process should be conducted rather than hastily-prepared Orders in response to closure demands of anti-access special interests. My intent with this letter is to show my strong opposition to these and any trail closures and to request my contact information be added to any further communications regarding the Tellico ORV area.
YOUR NAME
YOUR ADDRESS
YOUR E-MAIL
YOUR PHONE NUMBER
Very truly yours,
SIGN YOUR NAME
TYPE YOUR NAME
 
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