Rim and Tire recommendations

[landy67]

I have a 07 Tacoma access cab 4X4, and I’m looking to change the tires. I took the truck back into the wood lot to haul this years heat out, and with the stock street tires, I had to keep putting it into 2 low to get any traction. (It’s embarrassing to get the Toyota stuck and have to tow it out with the Rover)

I use the truck mostly on the highway, but it will also get used for hauling wood, dragging logs, and some recreational off road use when I can. The two types of terrain I’m most likely to encounter is soft sand and snow.

I wouldn’t mind going a bit larger tire, and I want to change the rims too. It currently has 245 75X16 tires mounted on the 5 spoke rims.

Who has a good price on 16 hole black steel rims? Will the Cooper Discoverer ATR give me more traction in the woods while still letting me take the truck out on the beach? (My Kumho MT’s are grave diggers at the beach)

Thanks

Dan H
Pembroke, MA
dan@landy67.com

 

[Happy Trails]

Wheelers offroad sells nice black steel rims at a decent price.

 

[landy67]

Thanks!

Thnks!

That’s exactly what I’m looking for, and they have good prices. I may even pickup one of the ARB bumpers…

Thanks

Dan

 

[bowyer2002]

I am on my second set of Cooper STs and haven't been stuck yet, hauling wood with loaded trailer, camping or hunting!

They aren't cheap but I had 73K on my last set with tread still showing (they'll be the "new" trailer tires!).

Good luck!

 

[smtyblt]

make sure you check the backspacing on the new rims. the newer tacos have a very large issue with the calipers hitting the wheel

 

[landy67]

According to the guys from Wheelers the rims are OK for the back spacing and they even have room for the TPMS sensors.
I’ve been having a bit of a go around with Toyota about changing tires. The dealer told me that putting larger tires on the truck would cause my ABS, TCS, and Stability control to stop functioning. I ended up emailing Toyota, and this is what I got back…
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Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. [/font]
We appreciate the opportunity to address your inquiry regarding possible tires sizes for use on your 2007 Tacoma as well as clarification of the operation of the tire pressure warning system. [/font]

Toyota does not recommend changing the tire or wheel size from the factory installed sizes. Vehicle driving and braking dynamics, ride quality, tire wear, proper wheel-chassis clearance, the engine/transmission management system, ABS, EBD, VSC, TRAC and Navigation systems may be adversely affected by a change from the factory tire size. [/font]

Modifications could also affect the vehicle’s safety and durability, and may violate government regulations. In addition, damage or performance problems resulting from the modification may not be covered under warranty. [/font]
As with all tires installed on Toyota vehicles, the owner can change brands if they like. Toyota has no specific recommendation regarding tire brands except that the replacement tire is the same size and has an equal or greater speed rating and weight rating as the originally equipped tire. [/font]

The tire pressure warning system on your 2007 Tacoma is a direct-sensing type which includes a tire pressure warning system valve and sensor attached to each wheel. [/font]
If you install snow tire and new wheels on your vehicle, the tire pressure warning light will come on until the old tires are reinstalled or until you have a tire pressure warning system valve and sensor installed on each tire and the system is recalibrated. If you do not have the sensors installed, you will have to check the tire pressure at lease once a month to make sure there are no issues with the snow tires as you use them over the winter. [/font]
The use of snow tires on after market rims without tire pressure warning sensors installed will not adversely affect the operation of the Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) or the Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) or Traction Control (TRAC) systems. [/font]

Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters under file #200711150256. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us. [/font]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Toyota Customer Experience [/font]
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So… How big a tire would you put on? I'm thinking 33" super swampers...

Dan

 

[Jacket]

I've got 33" tires on my Tacoma, and it hasn't caused any of the electronic features to fail. I've got VSC, TRAC, DAC and obviously ABS. All have functioned normally - sometimes more than I would like.....

It seems to me that the letter you received is likely a form letter intended to be a CYA for Toyota. Now I'm not saying that changing tire size won't cause additional wear and tear on your parts, but I can offer one instance of a Taco with many upgrades that has not seen any OEM parts fail because of it.

If you want to play it safer, go with 32's (265/75) while you are still under warranty. Lots of folks are running 32's on stock suspension with no issues.

Edit: You can also expect to do quite a bit of fender trimming to fit 33's, and if your wheels aren't backspaced properly, you may also rub the UCA and body mount. 32's avoid most if not all of those issues.

 

[KliersLC]

the 265/75/16 is a 31 inch tire in most brands.....

 

[cedarbarn]

I have run a variety of tire sizes on my 05 Tacoma with stock steel 16" rims...

265/75/16 tires will work with no lift on stock steel rims.

With an OME lift 255/85/16 BFG Mud Terrains (a 33" skinny tire) fit. I can fully flex the rear end and stuff the tires without rubbing. This is an excellent tire size for the vehicle with stock rims and an OME lift. I have run them for the last 20,000 miles.

With an OME lift 285/75/16 BFG Mud Terrains (a +-33" 10.5" wide tire) fit but rub the Upper control arm, and have very little clearance from the UCA with stock steel rims. I ran this tire size on stock steel rims for over 40,000 miles.

I have wheeled the piss out of my truck with both tire sizes, and prefer the skinny 255/85/16 tires. Better turn radius, no rubbing (very little), higher clearance (tire is actually taller than the 285) and the tires are less $$.

Performance? If you are trying to keep on road performance without re-gearing the truck go with the 265 tire size.

 

[FlatlandTRD]

the 265/75/16 is a 31 inch tire in most brands.....

What?

A 265/75R16 (~31.8") is the metric equivalent to the 32x11.5R15 (~31.7"). Generally referred to as a "32"

A 245/75R16 (~30.5") is the metric equivalent to the 31x10.5R15 (~30.7"). Generally referred to as a "31"

A 285/75R16 (~32.8") is the metric equivalent to the 33x11.5R15 (~32.7"). Generally referred to as a "33"

Now a 265/70R16 is similar to a wide 31", and a 255/85R16 like a skinny 33" (mine actually measures 33.2"). It's the aspect ratio.

Please don't confuse the new people, and the best source for tire sizes are the manufacturers' respective sites, under specs. Tire rack (for i.e.) contains several manufacturers' specs.

Landy, I would recommend the Cooper S/Ts (not to be confused with the STTs) in 265/75R16. That would step you up one size and traction. Personally I would keep the stock rims, but I don't like the 80s style black rims. The music is okay, but I just can't jump on that band wagon.

 

[KliersLC]

The 265/75/16 is significantly narrower than both a 32x11.50 and a 31x10.50. I have had a couple sets of these, and they measure 31 inches. Even if they measured exactly 31.8, it will make no difference in rubbing.....

What?

A 265/75R16 (~31.8") is the metric equivalent to the 32x11.5R15 (~31.7"). Generally referred to as a "32"

A 245/75R16 (~30.5") is the metric equivalent to the 31x10.5R15 (~30.7"). Generally referred to as a "31"

A 285/75R16 (~32.8") is the metric equivalent to the 33x11.5R15 (~32.7"). Generally referred to as a "33"

Now a 265/70R16 is similar to a wide 31", and a 255/85R16 like a skinny 33" (mine actually measures 33.2"). It's the aspect ratio.

Please don't confuse the new people, and the best source for tire sizes are the manufacturers' respective sites, under specs. Tire rack (for i.e.) contains several manufacturers' specs.

Landy, I would recommend the Cooper S/Ts (not to be confused with the STTs) in 265/75R16. That would step you up one size and traction. Personally I would keep the stock rims, but I don't like the 80s style black rims. The music is okay, but I just can't jump on that band wagon.

 

[SHANE07TACOKILLER]

Wheels

I have the same truck. I ditched the rugged terrians it came with the second week I owned it and got some 285 bfgoodrich mud terrains, I am really happy with there all around performance. I am running the stock trd rims for now.
I've been in many situations and never got stuck, I keep trying to get stuck.
I've been on some long road trips and these tires aren't too loud and perform well in mud, sand and rock.