Rear Cargo Barrier

[drohweder]

A while back I notice a thread about a cargo barrier made of nylon netting that anchored to the floor and the grab bars. I have searched the forum but cannot find it. We have a dog barrier that I am just not satisfied with and am looking for something a bit more solid. Thanks.

Dan

 

[cruiserdan]

Riley had a fellow make one up for him.

That is what you are remembering.

 

[the shed guy]

Milford in Aus now do one like that.

milford web page

 

[Safado]

Do a search for CARGO NET and
https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=18547&highlight=cargo+net
pops up

Guy backed out for liability issues.

 

[NorCalDoug]

There was another guy -- someone who manufactures them for other vehicles -- Ranier?
Apparently, it ended with the guy waiting for someone in CO to bring an 80 to his shop for measurements. Indicated he'd make them.

Check out the end of this thread:
cargo barrier thread
(same thread as above)

 

[nmostofi]

I wanted to get a Milford cargo barrier before I got the rear drawer system, their new U.S. rep. (man-a-fre used to be their rep in U.S.) wanted something like $600 for the barrier, if somone makes one here I would definetly be intreasted.

 

[drohweder]

Just spent some time at the rangler.com site. Anyone use on of their product in the back of an 80? I am going to measure up the back and likely place an order for the closest option. $114 isn't bad IMOP. Let me know if you have some experience with these. Thanks

 

[John E Davies]

Just spent some time at the rangler.com site. Anyone use on of their product in the back of an 80? I am going to measure up the back and likely place an order for the closest option. $114 isn't bad IMOP. Let me know if you have some experience with these. Thanks

I am using a _small_ Raingler rear window net (intended for the Wrangler) in the back of my LX. It is way too small for a complete barrier - I use it to keep the light camping gear that is piled up against my Milford barrier from tumbling back into the hatch. I have it mounted at the bottom to the two jump seat mounts and at the top to the grab handle screws. The quality is top notch - the buckles are very stout camlocks and the straps are very long. Delivery was prompt and the shipping charges were reasonable.

Here's a review of one of the Raingler nets:
http://jeepin.com/features/barriernet/index.asp

INHO the best solution is the steel Milford barrier - it's a terrific product. I paid $466 plus about $100 (!) shipping (oversized UPS) last spring from Man-A-Fre for the full barrier. It's certainly not cheap, but I have no regrets - it's an AWESOME addition to my LX. I have a section on it on my home page tech pages if you are interested. Installation is NOT as easy as they suggest.

If you want the name and email address of the US rep for Milford, email me off line and I will send it to you. He told me last spring that he was working on expanding the dealer network in the USA.

John

 

[CDN_Cruiser]

I second the real cargo barrier thread. IMHO there really are no true cargo barriers sold in NA (for non-commerical use) that would actually take the forces involved in a real accident. The barrier is designed for the truck and load tested for impact.

Spending $500 may seem expensive, but is not bad vs. all the other things we tends to spend $ on for these trucks. Kid in the seat and heavy dog (plus other stuff) are two really good reasons to get one. I've mentioned it before, have a look at the Milford web page to get some real world examples. I ended up getting the barrier as my first upgrade as I decided that it was really far more important than upgrading the shocks, sliders, new bumper, upgraded lights, upgraded stereo, etc.

I ordered from the US distributor and it was an 'OK' experience - nothing great, but it took some time.

Cheers, Hugh

 

[drohweder]

Problem is I just don't have $500 right now to spend on a Milford. I am most likely going to try to use one of the Raingler products for now and once I get the Milford I can us it in the manner you do John. This isn't my wheeler right now so I am not worried about camping equipment, Hi-lifts and what not flying forward.

I'll let ya know what I find. Thanks for your help. Dan

 

[CDN_Cruiser]

I hear you - I think mine was C$800 but the time I got it! One consideration is to get a cage for the dog and then use ratchet straps to keep it seated. I keep our dog in a cage (on a shelf at window height).

Cheers, Hugh

 

[drohweder]

The dog would revolt! He loves the rear sliders too much I think I am going to look into the raingler product. I measure the rear to be 54wx42H. Thats in inches for the imperial crowd

 

[Cube Dweller]

Dan,

I'm in the same boat, 7 month old in a rear facing carrier. I plan on building a cargo barrier this winter using steel tubing and expanded metal. I'm also going to use spring pins so it can be removed quickly.

Me and some work friends(we're all mech. engrs.) sat around thinking about how to calculate the forces involved from an impact. I estimated my worst possible load condition to be a 2" tow ball mount impacting the barrier at 70 mph (head on collision at 70, yes I know we'd be toast from the impact but you gotta start somewhere). We pretty much concluded that the math was pretty complex, grad level stuff.

So, I plan on welding up a square frame with the expanded metal on it, then "field testing" )

I'll post pictures and drawings as it progresses.

tony

 

[CDN_Cruiser]

Just for info, the Milford Barrier is rated for something like 65Kg at 40mph (I can't remember the speed) and it's very beefy. Their trick (in addition to a beefy frame) from what I can see if having built in 'expandable' pieces in the mounting points - ie when it takes a hit the expandable portions of the mounting system straighten out to help absorb the impact (like 'crumple zones' - but the reverse).

I debated about building my own and then thought that there are two problems that I wouldn't be able to overcome (1) building in some energy absorbing system into the mounting points and (2) designing mounting points that could absorb the impact (4 in the Milford case). IMO the mounting points are the weak link in the system - you can design a really strong barrier that will stop anything (eg plate steel), but it will tear out in any real accident (unless you cut in and welded to the frame, etc) - so I decided that someone has thought more about it than me, tested it and built it.

Cheers, Hugh

 

[John E Davies]

IMO the mounting points are the weak link in the system - you can design a really strong barrier that will stop anything (eg plate steel), but it will tear out in any real accident (unless you cut in and welded to the frame, etc) - so I decided that someone has thought more about it than me, tested it and built it.

I don't see why you couldn't buy the mounts from Man-A-Fre or cargobarrier.com in WI. I have the installation instructions and pics that came with my barrier and would be happy to scan it and post it here.

Here's the floor mount - identical to the roof mounts. This is my first picture post - I hope it works.

John

 

[John E Davies]

Rats - here's a link to that pic:

http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/Milford-007.JPG

John

 

[CDN_Cruiser]

Not a bad idea, I didn't know that was an option (that they sold the parts) - I was thinking of the point above 'using spring clips' (not sure what they are). In the end I just wasn't sure that I could design/build something of the same quality for the same price (or any saving would be relatively insignificant).

Cheers, Hugh