PTO Winch info.

[Aussie 25]

Hi all.
Am fitting an erly Toyota 40 winch on to a HJ47.
I have got a late sharft with the pully block that bolts on the chassis, but am missing the end that fits on the winch. I need to know what length is the splined half of the winch fitting. The one in the picture is from the pto drive end. If this fitting is the same as the frount one i can use it with the pice off the old that has the shear pin hole.

 

[Old Red]

Crudely . . . 3-5/8" first photo; 4-7/8" second photo; 5-5/8" third photo.

 

[Living in the Past]

Crudely . . . 3-5/8" first photo; 4-7/8" second photo; 5-5/8" third photo.

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This is the early style. These were replaced by one that the spline section was much shorter like the one in the first picture. The down side of that long spline is the spline section can rust to the shaft and is much harder to break free then the shorter one, The spline section on the longer one is in the middle of the boxed section of the of the front section on the frame making it hard to apply heat. The pillow block bearing just behind it is no longer available. One of my winches a PO destroyed the bearing removing the shaft because of the rust. I have another one and maybe two early PTO with rusted splines I need removed. If you do find a long spline one I would be sure to grease the splines and rotate the shaft on a regular bases.

 

[Aussie 25]

Crudely . . . 3-5/8" first photo; 4-7/8" second photo; 5-5/8" third photo.

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Thanks Old Red.
That one is the early one. The later one is very short.
The bottom shaft is the old type, the top is the latter one.
As i dont have the correct winch end for the top shaft ,i need the length of one. I am hoping the length is the same as the splined half of the pto end.

 

[Aussie 25]

Just a bit more info, the pillow block bearing is the same in both early and late. Its a common bearing, a 6205 around $10

 

[Living in the Past]

The picture you posted of the pillow block bearing the is goes to the bracket that is mounts to the frame on the side and not to the radiator bracket is something we did not get in the US. By the mid seventies a PTO winch was rare. Mainly had Warn electric winches installed at the dealer. The FJ55 had a similar setup as the late 4X series but not sure it would be the same length as the 4X series.

The part number for pillow block bearing is that for a complete housing or just the bearing? It's the housing being destroyed that has been my problem

 

[Aussie 25]

That PN is onley for the bearing. I can see how the long spline could size up and cause a major hedake in trying to replace a broken shearpin.

 

[Living in the Past]

That PN is onley for the bearing. I can see how the long spline could size up and cause a major hedake in trying to replace a broken shearpin.

It's not just replacing the shear pin it's removing the shaft that is the issue. The U-joint that goes on the spline will not fit thru the opening in the frame. The short shaft with the spline has a flange on the other end. To remove the shaft the spline end has to go thru the bearing. With a rust spline the short shaft will not go either way thru the frame. Like a mentioned a PO destroyed the aluminum pillow block housing to remove the shaft. I was doing some trading for his PTO winch. The cruiser was non running so he removed it at his home. I still have the rusted pieces in my PTO pile.