Pictured H151F for 80 or 100 series ?

[nieboo]

To all the experts out there : the transmission in the picture below, would that be one to fit the 24V HDJ80 ? I am guessing the date in right top corner would indicate more like for a 100 series.

Any thoughts ?

 

[Feistl]

That’s not a date code… do you have any other pictures of the gearbox?

 

[nieboo]

Yes. I do... Is there anything in particular to take note of ?

 

[nieboo]

Here is another one...

 

[Feistl]

I am 99.99% certain that is the weaker R151 gearbox from a 100 series cruiser.

Edit: you could technically bolt it up, but don’t expect it to last very long. Especially if the engine has been modified.

where abouts in the world are you located?

 

[mudgudgeon]

Agreed with @Feistl pretty sure it's an R151f.

The input shaft is to thin, and too many splines.
H151 has a coarse 14 spline input shaft.

Also, the main casing is wrong for H151.

You do not want an R151f behind a 1hdft, particularly if you are going to tweak the power output.

 

[nieboo]

I am 99.99% certain that is the weaker R151 gearbox from a 100 series cruiser.

Edit: you could technically bolt it up, but don’t expect it to last very long. Especially if the engine has been modified.

where abouts in the world are you located?

Thanks for that ! It is supposed to come from a diplomatic vehicle, which makes it unlikely to come from an 80 series. This would fit with your assessment.

I want the car to be reliable and last for a while longer, do I will strike it off my "interesting"-list.

I am located in western Germany

 

[nieboo]

Agreed with @Feistl pretty sure it's an R151f.

The input shaft is to thin, and too many splines.
H151 has a coarse 14 spline input shaft.

Also, the main casing is wrong for H151.

You do not want an R151f behind a 1hdft, particularly if you are going to tweak the power output.

Thanks to you too ! It is extremenly valuable to have guys look at stuff like this, that know what they are talking about. It does not help that there are so many different boxes that look alike, but are not quite the same...

I will continue looking for a H151F or alternatively have mine rebuilt at some point.

Cheers !

 

[Feistl]

It is supposed to come from a diplomatic vehicle

Its very highly likely that it came from a HZJ100/150. (With the naturally aspirated 1HZ diesel engine). The R151 gearbox is actually a nice smooth shifting box (much better than the H151) but is medium duty. It can't really handle the torque of the more powerful turbo diesel engine (or the Petrol 1FZFE)....

I will continue looking for a H151F or alternatively have mine rebuilt at some point.

Cheers !

Alternatively, my recommendation would be to try and source a gearbox from the VDJ76/78/79 series landcruiser (Either new or second hand). They are effectively the same H150F gearbox... you just need to swap the input shaft/front cover/bellhousing over. The later model VDJ gearboxes have a number of improvements (triple syncros vs single in the 80 series) and most importantly will be much newer with fewer kms.

We are a bit spoilt for choice here in Australia... I picked up a brand new H152F gearbox a few weeks ago for $2000aud ($1350usd). Add in ~$400 for the input shaft and timing cover and a few hours to swap it over and you end up with the perfect solution.

 

[mudgudgeon]

Thanks to you too ! It is extremenly valuable to have guys look at stuff like this, that know what they are talking about. It does not help that there are so many different boxes that look alike, but are not quite the same...

I will continue looking for a H151F or alternatively have mine rebuilt at some point.

Cheers !

No problem.

There's quite a few visual differences in the casing for R151 vs H151.

Not to mention H151 is much larger. It's much more girthy around the middle

I agree with above, the R151f is a decent box in a lighter vehicle. Definitely smooth shifting.

They were prone to failures in 105 series.

 

[rick_d]

Yes R series no doibt.

Joeri should chine in here as well as Galen. I put a 2011 as new R151 behind a hdt that now is owned by Galen/bottombracket.

The R ahifts shooth and if you are not hauling or racing and should be fine for kilometers.

 

[nieboo]

Thanks guys for all your input !!

There is plenty of food for thought there. I am trending toward the H152F option, since it seems to provide the most amount of benefits, but I have to check for availability here. I would like to go with a bigger turbo at some point and reliability is a condition. Not knowing the history of the pictured gearbox, I suppose the H152F route would be the safer option, not in the least considering reliability.

 

[nieboo]

Its very highly likely that it came from a HZJ100/150. (With the naturally aspirated 1HZ diesel engine). The R151 gearbox is actually a nice smooth shifting box (much better than the H151) but is medium duty. It can't really handle the torque of the more powerful turbo diesel engine (or the Petrol 1FZFE)....



Alternatively, my recommendation would be to try and source a gearbox from the VDJ76/78/79 series landcruiser (Either new or second hand). They are effectively the same H150F gearbox... you just need to swap the input shaft/front cover/bellhousing over. The later model VDJ gearboxes have a number of improvements (triple syncros vs single in the 80 series) and most importantly will be much newer with fewer kms.

We are a bit spoilt for choice here in Australia... I picked up a brand new H152F gearbox a few weeks ago for $2000aud ($1350usd). Add in ~$400 for the input shaft and timing cover and a few hours to swap it over and you end up with the perfect solution.

Its very highly likely that it came from a HZJ100/150. (With the naturally aspirated 1HZ diesel engine). The R151 gearbox is actually a nice smooth shifting box (much better than the H151) but is medium duty. It can't really handle the torque of the more powerful turbo diesel engine (or the Petrol 1FZFE)....



Alternatively, my recommendation would be to try and source a gearbox from the VDJ76/78/79 series landcruiser (Either new or second hand). They are effectively the same H150F gearbox... you just need to swap the input shaft/front cover/bellhousing over. The later model VDJ gearboxes have a number of improvements (triple syncros vs single in the 80 series) and most importantly will be much newer with fewer kms.

We are a bit spoilt for choice here in Australia... I picked up a brand new H152F gearbox a few weeks ago for $2000aud ($1350usd). Add in ~$400 for the input shaft and timing cover and a few hours to swap it over and you end up with the perfect solution.

Since the newer 70 series are not sold around here much due to exhaust criteria, there are not many parts available. Any pointers as to where to source a gearbox like you did ? 2000 AUD plus shipping and tax is still cheaper than a used H151 around here...

 

[mudgudgeon]

Since the newer 70 series are not sold around here much due to exhaust criteria, there are not many parts available. Any pointers as to where to source a gearbox like you did ? 2000 AUD plus shipping and tax is still cheaper than a used H151 around here...

Partsouq.com for a new one out of UAE may be cheaper?

 

[JuanJ]

Since the newer 70 series are not sold around here much due to exhaust criteria, there are not many parts available. Any pointers as to where to source a gearbox like you did ? 2000 AUD plus shipping and tax is still cheaper than a used H151 around here...

Hello,

You should consider either an H150F or an H152F. The former is in use with the current gasoline/petrol 70 Series. The latter is in use with 1VD-powered 70 Series.

The H150F's first gear is shorter than the first gear of the H151F.

If I remember correctly, first, second and fifth gear in the H152F are longer, in order to handle rpms and torque better.

You can get both new.

There are a couple threads with projects that used the H152F, bought new.

Regarding the H151F, I understand it was used in 1VD-powered Australia-spec 70 Series between 2007 and 2017.






Juan

 

[nieboo]

@JuanJ : Thanks for those pointers. I will try to find those threads. If I can get a H152F and get away with installing it here in Germany (...), I am going to try that route I think. I feel the engine has enough power for those longer gears If not it is a good reason for a turbo upgrade. And another fight with the German TÜV...

 

[JuanJ]

Hello,

It is possible to get a new H152F.

The H152F's gears allow to cruise at 100+ km/h at around 2200 rpm, without forcing things.

Regarding the safety/mechanical inspection, it is a dreadful thing to deal with in my book.





Juan

 

[mudgudgeon]

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I think (not 100% sure) the 2-3 day processing time is for stuff in UAE Warehouse. 7-10 days is from Japan, via UAE

For VDJ79

 

[rick_d]

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Uh. The v8 152 is a us part number. Pretty easy to convert to hdj/hz (w 300mm flywheel) status.

 

[OGBeno]

I think (not 100% sure) the 2-3 day processing time is for stuff in UAE Warehouse. 7-10 days is from Japan, via UAE

That’s not how Partsouq works.