Photo fun in IR

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This has nothing to do with 4wheelin but just some fun stuff in infrared photography. I had my Nikon D1x converted to IR and got it back today and snapped this as a test exposure and inverted the red blue channels. The second photo is straight color IR.
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Ive been thinking about doing it for a long time on my D70s. After seeing pic one, I reeeeally want it!!
 
I have no idea how that is done and I'm not even sure I fully understand what it means - but those pics are very cool!

On a related (non 4x4 but still photo-ish) subject, I purchased a JVC Everio GZ-HD6U full 1080p HD video camera and I'm not really all that impressed. I know this is a 'consumer' level HD video camera, but I guess I expected more. I've only had it a few days, so maybe I just haven't mastered the settings. I'll keep working on it.

Any suggestions for consumer-level HD video anyone?
 
I have no idea how that is done and I'm not even sure I fully understand what it means - but those pics are very cool!
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Miescha said:
On a related (non 4x4 but still photo-ish) subject, I purchased a JVC Everio GZ-HD6U full 1080p HD video camera and I'm not really all that impressed. I know this is a 'consumer' level HD video camera, but I guess I expected more. I've only had it a few days, so maybe I just haven't mastered the settings. I'll keep working on it.

Any suggestions for consumer-level HD video anyone?
I'm no expert, but after about 10 years of using a Sony (Handycam Vision CCD-TRV65) which served us faithfully until it wigged out about a year ago we bought a Canon.

I did a fair amount of research before taking the $1,150-ish plunge with the Canon iVIS HF10.

It comes with 16G of memory and takes the SD card for additional storage capacity. With the purchase price I got "free":rolleyes: $300-ish credit so I chose to get the bigger battery and a 16G (no-name brand) SD card.

I'm not sure what your priorities are, but after using not-so-light-nor-small Sony, I was set to get something that would be one of the smallest, lightest, fairly advanced (high-definition) unit that I could get my hands on.

Another thing that was high on the list was the ability to take decent digital still photographs, preferably even while I'm videotaping (Is that phrase still appropriate or should I say "filiming":hillbilly:)

While the picture quality of it while recording is not THAT good, the quality is on-par with, if not better than, my stand alone digital camera (not the latest, either though.:D) if I'm not recording video.

I was tired of juggling the outdated camcorder and the digital camera. So having them both with good quality was VERY important to me, again while being one of the smallest HD models. (Panasonic had something even smaller with HD, but the video/pic quality left something to be desired of: Is that the right expression?)

ANYWAY, we had considered a couple of Sony models with hard disc (MY "HD" referring above was "high-definition", just to clarify), but while they offered mucho storage space they tended to be a tad bulky, therefore making them noticeably(sp) heavier than the Canon.

Now the Canon is not w/o any shortcomings (IMO):

-No view-finder, which was helpful outside, especially on sunny days.
-No infred(sp) like my old Sony had, which kind of made it cool/funny taping my family while they slept.
-Not the best optical zoom available on the market, especially compared with couple of the non-HD models in Canon and JVC line. Mine is 12x, but I believe yours and one of the Canon models I had looked at were over 30x optical zoom, which certainly made them look tempting with the kids' outdoor sports playing.

ANYWAY, I'm not sure if this was the kind of feedback you were seeking and I certainly am no authority when it comes to this kind of stuff (Or anything, for that matter:D)

Despite the short list of shortcomings listed above I am thrilled with the size, picture quality(ies: both filiming and snapping pics), and weight.

Are you going to keep your JVC or dislike it so much that you might actually consider replacing it with something else?

The Everio model I had looked at with the killer optical zoom was about 1/2 the price of the Canon I ended up buying, which certainly made it VERY attractive. But I asked myself, "How often do you really need 30+X optical zoom, compared to the need (or the want:hillbilly:) of having a high-definition video with decent optical zoom?

Good luck!

Pics taken with the optional/larger batteries on both units.
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The Sony literally has been collecting dust.
I need to find a way to copy all of the tapes onto DVD's.:doh:

I can't get over how much smaller these things have gotten.
Technologies....:eek:
I don't think I would want them much smaller as that would become somewhat uncomfortable to hold if they got much smaller, even for a Japanese man with little hands.;)

BTW, I like burnt muffins.:flipoff2:

Hijack off!
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Hi-Def Video Cameras / camcorder

OK, I know this is starting to get off-topic and maybe even off-tech, but I do plan to use the camera to shoot video of my 80 off-roading trips if that helps any :D

MOT, thanks for the review - sounds like you went through the same thing I did when making a purchase. Unfortunately, I thought of getting the new video camera the night before I left for 2 weeks at Disney World (just returned), so I was buying on-the-spot with limited time for research (and I may still return the JVC for another camera as they won't charge me anything if I do it quickly).

My old video camera was/is a Sony DCR-PC110 and is very nice given its age (and still working fine). It has firewire and USB connections, a great night-shot zero-lux lens, excellent zoom, 8-hour extended battery life, hot shoe, view finder in addition to screen, easy-access controls, and built-in flash. However, I was considering a change to get away from the memory-stick (I just don't like it -sorry), a better still camera (the old sony only has a 1mp still), I wanted hard-drive instead of the mini-DV tape, and I wanted Hi-Def. To be clear, I didn't NEED any of this stuff, and the size of the old Sony was/is great.

So, as noted I bought the JVC GZ-HD6U (don't be confused by the numbers, the GZ-HD7U is actually an earlier model that is replaced by the 6U which now has 1080p instead of 1080i full HD and a larger 120gb drive instead of the 60gb drive of the 7U).

Overall, the thing seems great in my 2 weeks at Disney with a TON of video taking - though I now know I dont' need anywhere near 120gb of drive space b/c I started with 9+ hours available in the full-HD mode and finished with 7 hours still available and I felt like a dang Japanese tourist (aimed at MOT :D) b/c I had the video going all the time. I also took a few still pictures - but not a ton (I also bought a FANTASTIC Olympus 1030 SW the night before we left to replace my slightly older Olympus and LOVE it - great underwater video and stills and excellent 10mp plus shock-proof and easy to use).

Back to the video, battery life was as claimed (2.5 hours on the medium life battery - it came with one and I got a second one as part of the purchase 'deal' so I didn't opt for the super-extended 4.5 hour battery and its bulk), the picture looks great, I love the firewire 4 output and the full-size HDMI connection, and USB 2.0

The zoom is only 10x optical and 200x digital, but that seemed fine in my limited use so far. The overall size is fine (this wasn't a problem for me with the old Sony so maybe I'm not as impressed as I should be - I did look at some much smaller cameras including the Canon MOT chose, but they were all flash-memory only or at least a very small HD like the 16gb in the Canon - though I'm no longer certain this is a problem with frequent enough off-loading of the video). The camera did get a bit warm with extended use, but the manual made it clear that the heat was normal and I'm told they all get warm (after all, its a freakin hard drive in there!). To be clear, it was warm - not HOT. The still pics were super easy to use and switch back and forth from video and the quality looks fine *so far* but I haven't been able to print anything. My only complaint here is that the literature only says that the still image resolution is 1920x1080 in the 16:9 ratio or 1440x1080 in the 4:3 ratio - I thought this was 2 mega pixel but now I'm not sure. The Sony HDR-SR12 that I'm considering claims 10mp stills (WOW!) but the specs on-line give the same 1920x1080 resolution - so maybe the JVC is actually a higher resolution still than I thought :confused::confused:

Regardless, I knew this when I bought the JVC, so not really a complaint. What I DID notice and didn't like:
  1. No viewfinder - small issue, but still
  2. No front light/flash - this turned out to be a bigger problem than I expected with low-light and night stills.
  3. Poor low-light video. I could never get the video to adjust correctly in low light while in the full-auto mode. I'm hoping that I can fix this in the manual mode, but I really didn't want to go to manual - I just wanted the camera to make the necessary changes and record great video with little/no input from me. I also haven't viewed the video yet (play back outside of the camera) so this may just be an issue with how it looks on the camera screen and not be a problem in the way it was recorded - but I'm not too hopeful.
  4. The micro-SD is nice (I have several 4gb cards laying around) but I was 'sold' by the salesperson and told that I could record in full-hd on the msd card - in fact, it only accepts standard resolution. I'm OK with that, just disappointed that I wasn't better informed to catch the lie. What is disappointing with the micro sd is that you cannot use it to transfer video from the hard disk (again, I was 'sold' otherwise). The Sony HDR-SR12 allows this.
That's really it I guess. Nothing major, but I would really like better low-light recording (and this may be user-error at this point, I'm not sure) and I would really like a front light/flash.

The replacement I'm considering if I return the JVC is a Sony HDR-SR11 or HDR-SR12 (only difference I can tell is the 12 has a larger 120gb hard drive while the 11 has a smaller 60gb drive). On the plus side for the Sonys
  1. The Sony has a front light/flash
  2. the flash memory option can be used for transferring video from the HDD or recording in full-HD
  3. the memory stick is tested up to 8gb while the JVC micro-SD is only tested to 4gb.
  4. claimed 10 mega pixel still images - great for when I don't want to carry the digital still camera or just forgot it
  5. seperate viewfinder - always a plus though I almost never use it.
On the con side for the Sonys
  1. No Firewire - USB2.0 only (I'm lost on this - firewire has been the standard for video transfer for at least 5 years so what gives?)
  2. I'm back to the dang memory stick I don't like (only b/c I have no other devices that use memory stick whereas I have multiple that use micro-sd and/or sd
So all minor pros and cons between the video cameras - and I'll probably just keep the JVC, but I'll at least look again at the Sony SR12. Here are a few quick pics to compare size of my old Sony mini-DV and the new JVC.
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