Outboaring shocks (1 Viewer)

[VinSil]

So, I'm swapping in 60 series axles in my 40. Finished up most of the rear tonight and on my rear original axle which was SOA, the shocks were laid over in the typical toyota fashion like this:

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Now, I have a wider housing and about 4.5" of axle tube between the springs and brakes.

I know the shocks would work better out boarded of the springs and in a more vertical position, as well as make the rig handle better.


The shocks I have are 5125 Bilstiens with 10" of travel. I was doing some eye balling tonight and think I can make this work.


Questions are:

Has anyone done this? Successfully or am I wasting time and effort?


Some simple specs on the rig in question if it matters.


55 springs in the rear, SOA setup, about 4.5" of space between the tubes and brakes. I'm running wheels with 3.75" of BS, and 1.5" spacers on the rear with 37" Creepies.




Thanks.

 

[brokenparts]

So, I'm swapping in 60 series axles in my 40. Finished up most of the rear tonight and on my rear original axle which was SOA, the shocks were laid over in the typical toyota fashion like this:

/\

Now, I have a wider housing and about 4.5" of axle tube between the springs and brakes.

I know the shocks would work better out boarded of the springs and in a more vertical position, as well as make the rig handle better.


The shocks I have are 5125 Bilstiens with 10" of travel. I was doing some eye balling tonight and think I can make this work.


Questions are:

Has anyone done this? Successfully or am I wasting time and effort?


Some simple specs on the rig in question if it matters.


55 springs in the rear, SOA setup, about 4.5" of space between the tubes and brakes. I'm running wheels with 3.75" of BS, and 1.5" spacers on the rear with 37" Creepies.




Thanks.

Hola J..

How about a pic from the back looking forward. Might help with the visual?

Glad to hear you're making some progress.

 

[VinSil]

I know....should have grabbed one. Looks great with the TR's and Creepy's on it.


Looks like your making progress too Zach! Hopefully I'll be done next weekend....just gotta finish up the front end.


Then...time to wheel the snow!

 

[brokenparts]

yeah, grab a pic when you can... I cant wait to see your rig together.

You are going to finish up way before me but I'm hoping to salvage some of the snow season this year. The Cascade Cruiser Christmas tree run is a good time and is very family oriented. If you get yours finished up I would try to make that run. Nothing too hardcore but can get interesting depending on the amount of snow on goat.

 

[Isotel]

i don't know if you could make it work, FJ40 frames are pretty wide back there..

 

[Francesco_from_Italy]

I put air shocks on mine and since I did'nt want to practise holes in the cabin I put the shocks out of the frame. I have 80 axles so they're as wide as yours.
Suspensions work pretty good (except a few problem with air shocks, but this is not a matter for you), I just had to build bumpstop in the rear becouse almost fully compressed the wheel was going to hit the shocks. I put bumpstop, I took off a few cm of compression and now everything works fine.

Here it is general view of the back:

and here a detail; you can see the bumpstop (made in a way I can set them higher or lower, depends on the size if the wheels):

Francesco

 

[Eskimo]

Try not to go *too* vertical, you don't want the angle of the shock to the axle to go beyond 90° when one tire stuffs and the other is drooped. The shock's effectiveness goes to almost nil when it passover over this 90°.

It's not a HUGE deal since you don't typically get that kind of movement with any speed, but it's something to try and keep in mind.

 

[VinSil]

Thanks for the pictures and advice. I did plan to angle them in slightly to combat the 90 degree thing, I don't think I get enough droop but I will keep that in mind. I work the next few days but I'll grab some pictures here and post and update as I work on it.

 

[Francesco_from_Italy]

Thanks for the pictures and advice. I did plan to angle them in slightly to combat the 90 degree thing, I don't think I get enough droop but I will keep that in mind. I work the next few days but I'll grab some pictures here and post and update as I work on it.

My shocks are really close to 90° but if you want to put them between frame and wheels this is probably the only way. Infact in compression they are so close to the frame on a side and so close to wheel on the other side and if you move the shock toward inside or outside you will hit for sure frame or wheel when the shock compress or extends.
The only solution is to put very wide wheel spacers; only consider that in the pics I have something like 5 cm (2") spacers and stille the wheel hit the shocks in compression (wheels size: 38,5").

 

[bustanutley]

I really don't think there is a enough room, at 61" there was really no room in mine. Leaf springs need a little wiggle room since their movement isn't real percise. I am considering going thru the floor with my new setup and mounting the bottom of the shock to the u-bolt plate, seems like the best option if you don't mind choping up the floor, i know I'm not excited about it.