Onboard air

[SamoL]

Has anyone installed onboard compressor strong enough to fill up tires and that can also be used with ARB lockers? 26 l/min at 2 bar of ARB compressor doesn't sound too impressive...

Regards

Samo

 

[dieselbigot]

if you want an air system that fills tyres effectively, you best bet imo, is to just go with a co2 system like powertank. i can't tell you how many times i've re-seated blown beads on the trail with mine. far more effective than anything you can run belt driven. buy the little electric arb compressor for lockers...that's it. then buy a powertank for tires, air tools etc. just my buck.02

 

[SamoL]

I'm considering on-board compressor to save space - to have a compressor under the hood and not in the back with other luggage.

Regards

Samo

 

[spressomon]

I'm considering on-board compressor to save space - to have a compressor under the hood and not in the back with other luggage.

Regards

Samo

ICYDK...Powertank now makes a 5lb version...smaller tank...takes up a little less space.

 

[SamoL]

On my last trip I had to air down my tires to 1 bar 4 times. Power tank would not replace the compressor, as eventually you run out of compressed air . Usually I try to find a tire repair shop in some village to fill up the tires for a dollar or so. If there is none, compressor is also OK. I guess I'll then use ARB compressor or something simmilar.

Regards

Samo

 

[turboale]

Your best bet would be to get a york compressor ie old A/C unit and convert it into a compressor. Then mount some air tanks somewhere under the truck. My plan on my Runner was to get a tire carrier and then mount 2-3 tanks under the truck where the spare used to be. I was actually thinking of making a box under there that would span the width of the frame rails and I was going to mount all the OBA and electrical stuff in there to keep it clean and protected. Just throwing out ideas...

 

[SamoL]

My A/C compressor just broke recently, so I wouldn't trust an old A/C compressor . I'd like to keep things simple. Maybe a good choice would also be A Viair compressor with tank. They also have a kit for operating ARB diflocks.

Regards

Samo

 

[Greg B]

Another option to consider is using the space where the spare tire goes to hold an air tank. If you had a bumper with a spare tire carrier, you could fit a pretty large air tank under there. This way you could fill tires without waiting on the compressor as much. Just a thought.

 

[turboale]

That is true,
but after reasearching you just can't compare the air output of the two. You could almost run air tools directly off a york style compressor, while your going to be waiting a while for even the biggest electric compressor to keep up. If you have room for enough air storage then the electric compressors work well, but you said you wanted it to take up less room.

my .02

 

[SamoL]

If I would put the tire on a tire carrier, gained space would be used to carry diesel and not air

Regrads

Samo

 

[turboale]

haha,
true true... but like Greg said, you could convert the bumper into an air tank and do it that way. I personally would not feel comfortable using a bumper as a gas tank for obvious reason

 

[hoser]

Your best bet would be to get a york compressor ie old A/C unit and convert it into a compressor. :

I looked briefly before and I'm not sure there's room for another compressor. I hope you can do it b/c that would be awesome. Here's one electric air compressor that could keep up with the York and CO2. 8cfm @ 100psi

http://www.oasisoffroad.com/p2.html

Cost is a factor though, so that idea got thrown out. I went with CO2 and also carry a small emergency compressor.

 

[calamaridog]

I believe the Extreme Air is the benchmark for 12v compressors due to several factors. Yes, the Oasis has more flow. 200cfm for Oasis vs. 150cfm. for Extreme. The Oasis is also much heavier and larger. The Oasis 1000 costs $850 while the Extreme Air costs $350.

So the Extreme costs much less, is smaller, weighs less, can still run air tools, and is still 100% duty cycle.

http://www.extremeoutback.com/index.cgi?cart_id=2289733.2084&pid=30

Samo needs a reliable and permanent air source. You could use the Extreme without a tank, but you could also plumb in a small tank, maybe 2 gallon, for tools and to run the ARB.

CO2 is awesome for a weekends but not expedition. York? Sounds like a bunch of work, making mounts, etc.

 

[hoser]

I believe the Extreme Air is the benchmark for 12v compressors due to several factors. Yes, the Oasis has more flow. 200cfm for Oasis vs. 150cfm. for Extreme. The Oasis is also much heavier and larger. The Oasis 1000 costs $850 while the Extreme Air costs $350.

So the Extreme costs much less, is smaller, weighs less, can still run air tools, and is still 100% duty cycle.

Calamari, I think you have the pressure (PSI) numbers a little mixed up with the flow rate (cfm) numbers.

Extreme Aire is rated at 4cfm @ free flow and a 150psi max working pressure.
The Oasis is rated at 8cfm @ 100psi and even more at free flow. It has a 200psi max working pressure. 4cfm at freeflow isn't very much for air tools but could work marginally. It would definitely need a reservoir tank.

The Oasis is the ultimate electric compressor if you have the money and the room. I agree, Samo needs something other than Co2.

 

[Dandon]

Hi all,

I remember having seen a setup that used the front bullbar as a reservoir tank. A slider could work too. Either one has enough volume and is strong enough to hold a considerable amount of compressed air.

 

[calamaridog]

Sorry Hoser, it was the cold medicine I promise

And yes the Oasis puts out more air. It also weighs like 50lbs. and is huge. It also costs $850. Those numbers are telling me a different story, but you qualified that with your statement regarding money and room.

So I still say the Extreme Air is the benchmark, when you factor everything in, including value, etc.

Hopefully this makes more sense, I've switched to beer.

 

[spressomon]

To revive this thread: Has anyone figured out where/a way to mount a York on to the UZJ100 engine?

 

[claytorr]

not a York but might work

So I was bumbling around the internet at work and stumbled onto the Warn site and saw this Warn PowerPlant Dual Force a Compressor and winch merged together. Not sure how it would fit in a bullbar, how it works or looks but the numbers seem alright from a capacity perspective, I think it uses the winch motor to power the compressor (which makes sense)
my $.02
Link
http://emailer.emailroi.com/reader.ice?20061218151954316940&jcrdog@yahoo.com&6602


thanks
Clay

 

[100 TD]

As for air tanks, if you run LT tyres, your spare/spares are huge resivior tanks, if the are load range D they can be pumped to 65 PSI. This won't damage the tyre. But it will hold a lot of spare air to help bring up the others from 15 PSI to 40 PSI very quickly and assist the compressor. The spares can then be pumped up by your compressor while driving away (if you fit hose and valving to them), as long as you fit a 65PSI shut off.


With regards to the winch/air package, I woould prefer to keep them seperate, the old KISS principle as I would hate for something to go wrong with the winch when you need it because it has just finished building a house..