For Sale (Not Mine)(Dealership) 1989 Silver 5-speed RHD Highroof HJ60 (5 Viewers)

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Dallas, Texas, USA
Year
1989
Vehicle Model
  1. 60 Series
Location
27526 Fuquay-Varina North Carolina, United States
Mileage
151000
Color
Silver
Outside Link
https://www.inlineautosale.com/vdp/17004349/Used-1989-Toyota-Land-Cruiser-HJ60-for-sale-in-Fuquay-Varina-NC-27526
Since I spend entirely too much time perusing the various car selling sights looking at old Japanese 4x4's, I sometimes come across what I think are some pretty interesting finds. This, IMO, is one of them: a (at least based on the photos) really nice high-roof HJ60 at a used car dealer just outside of Raleigh, North Carolina, complete with a proper 5 speed, 3 pedal gearbox. Oh, and also, inexplicably, an aftermarket bucket seat in the front passenger position. Would love to know the story behind that!

Now, why this dealer has what appears to be rather clean, 1989 JDM high-roof diesel Land Cruiser on their lot that mostly comprises of "normal" used cars, I couldn't say, but if it's as nice as their photos make it look and it's mechanically sound, then at the $15,000 they want for it that doesn't seem unreasonable. As much as I dig the 60 series, I'm not really in the market for one (although if this was a really nice 12H-T and had cable lockers at this price I might be forced to buy it 😁), but I hope there might be folks on this forum who are interested in a vehicle like this and aren't scared of the massive power of the mighty 2H motor might want to know about this one here!

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PS: There are more photos on the dealerships website!
 
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I was excited for a second as I'm headed to NC soon. But, it looks like the interior is from four different cars. Seats , floor mats, panels, is everything a different color? PTO winch missing, rear fender flare and turn indicator missing. I also like that all the emblems have been relocated, weird.

Is it just me or is it overheating too, its idling in the pic at about 600rpm, but the temp gauge is at hot and oil pressure is very low?
 
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I was excited for a second as I'm headed to NC soon. But, it looks like the interior is from four different cars. Seats , floor mats, panels, is everything a different color? PTO winch missing, rear fender flare and turn indicator missing. I also like that all the emblems have been relocated, weird.

Is it just me or is it overheating too, its idling in the pic at about 600rpm, but the temp gauge is at hot and oil pressure is very low?

Good eye, I didn't even notice any of that stuff, or in some cases, didn't even know those things where wrong to begin with. In my defense, I am definitely not an expert in JDM 60 series!

RE: General weirdness - for what it's worth (again, not an expert on this), if you've ever perused some of the Japanese vehicle auction sites, or even looked at some of the examples brought in by more generalized JDM US importers, who, unlike a specialist importer like Land Cruisers Direct, don't look as hard for super nice examples, you'll definitely come across some Japanese Cruisers with some, ahem, interesting modifications. So, while I will repeat for the 3rd time I am not an expert here and this is speculation, I wonder if it came from Japan with the mismatched interior and/or some of the parts missing or in the wrong location?
 
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I wasn't inferring in any way that you should know any of this.

I called the dealer, it was bought at auction, they don't know anything about it.

My favorite hj61 is a rig that has come up for sale multipole times is this

 
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Welp, my friend has been dying to get a diesel cruiser for a while so I went up with him to check this out and see what was wrong with it.
It was dead, both batteries dead, so had to jump start it with my troopy. 24v - 24v. Obviously, it hasn't been run in a while or test-driven or anything like that since the batteries were dead.

Started up well, shifts well (3rd is kinda hard to get into), I got up to 45mph and had to brake due to traffic stopped ahead. ALWAYS check the brakes before leaving the parking lot because my foot just went to the floor. Brakes are a very faint suggestion in this cruiser. Brake booster and master cylinder both looked pretty much new so maybe just air in the lines?? Anyways I managed to not rear-end someone and go on with the test drive for another half a mile. I was giving it all it had from a stop just to see, 1st went well, 2nd was fine, put it into 3rd, and then this horrible, I mean horrendous noise started. I thought I had just blown the tranny. Pulled over to the side of the road and gave it a quick rev and the horrible noise increased more, so I knew something in the engine was wrong. Turned the car off, popped the hood, and it looked totally fine. Then after a bit of searching, I find that the entire engine had shifted over and the fan was smacking against the fan shroud (as seen below)



Well, good at least I hadn't caused any major catastrophic damage. My buddy called the dealership to ask what they wanted us to do with it (ended up saying just drive it back) so I took this time to look underneath the car. It's been totally under sprayed but even with that I couldn't see where much rust could be hiding underneath the under spray and the inside of the frame felt pretty clean, not bumpy or flakey or anything. Then I see some weird oily thing between the oil pan and transmission, I touch it and it's SOAKED in oil. So then I go to pull it out and it was just a big piece of foam to absorb a massive oil leak (rear main seal I'm assuming)



So uhhhhhh yea. Maybe the auction house did it, or the dealership, I'll get to that later. The oil pressure was in fact low, and stayed low, we checked the oil and it was only up to 1/4 on the dipstick (probably all leaked out into the foam) Anyways we drive it back which felt so so so wrong to do. One of the worst-sounding 3 minutes of my life, eventually the fan disintegrated enough and the noise stopped, then I did another hard pull just to see what would happen and it came back, sounding worse than the first time. Also, the front knuckles need a rebuild, and rear axle too as well, both covered in layers of oil and grease. I get in there and explain everything to the man in charge (the stereotypical kinda sleazy used car dealership guy) and explain everything I found and what's wrong etc etc. Freind offers him 10k for it and the guy says he's only gonna take $500 off of it. Also, the first thing I had said was that the rear axle needed a rebuild and they said they had rebuilt it, and so I asked why was it covered in years of grease and dirt to which they couldn't answer. Don't want to make up accusations or anything but the whole place just gave the vibe of that they would be the ones to put some foam to cover up the major oil leak, also if they were doing bearings and seals in the rear axle, how did they not see the massive oily foam piece when I saw it within 1 minute of looking under the car? Just very sketchy overall. I'm gonna call back in a week pretending to be a different person and ask about any oil leaks it has and see if they are in fact hiding it or if I actually had just brought it to their attention.

Other stuff: Windows go up and down sometimes, some only work when u do it from the individual window control, and others only work when you do them from the main driver window control. Electronic locks sometimes lock and unlock and sometimes don't, whenever they didn't you just heard a clicking. Driver window was very loose and flopping around within the door, A/C worked surprisingly great (don't know if it's been converted from R12 to R134a yet). Sunroof worked well, and then at the very end started clicking and wasn't happy. Steering had quite a bit of play, but it's a 30 y/o Land Cruiser, they told me to keep it running after I pulled up to the dealership and when we walked out it was still running (had been idling for like 15 minutes at that point) and the temp gauge was quite hot, I've never seen any cruiser gauge go above half unless it had something wrong with it and it was about 7/8's of the way up the gauge. The A/C was off by the way.

Pros: Engine sounded fine, ran perfectly, and was peppy. Transmission was great (other than 3rd gear sometimes), A/C worked great, it didn't seem to have much rust at all, and it's pretty cheap for a diesel cruiser over here (for many reasons though). I really can't think of much else.

Cons: Front knuckle rebuild needed, rear axle needs oil seals and bearings replaced (unless they actually did it), The engines fan hits the radiators fan shroud and sounds horrible (maybe bad motor mount), Big rear main seal leak (that was been hidden from the buyer), Low oil pressure (maybe from the low oil level). Heated up A LOT when idling, which was never a problem for my 62 or my troopy now. Windows and electronic locks were funky, to say the least. Oh yea and the passenger seat is just a racing seat, I've seen some funky stuff in Japanese imports but that may take the cake.

So to wrap this all up, it's pretty sketchy just all around. Sorry I didn't take more pictures or videos a lot was happening all at once and I didn't find this thread or knew it existed until after I went to check it out. Definitely know what you are getting into if you do go look at this. Made for a VERY interesting test drive at the least.
 
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Man, that sounds like a POS, I can't believe they didn't take 10k, that thing is worth 7k at best.

Car dealers never care when you tell them whats wrong with a car. I can't count how many times I've told places this or that is a serious problem and their only response ever is fo you want to buy it...buyer beware as they say.
 
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Welp, my friend has been dying to get a diesel cruiser for a while so I went up with him to check this out and see what was wrong with it.
It was dead, both batteries dead, so had to jump start it with my troopy. 24v - 24v. Obviously, it hasn't been run in a while or test-driven or anything like that since the batteries were dead.

Started up well, shifts well (3rd is kinda hard to get into), I got up to 45mph and had to brake due to traffic stopped ahead. ALWAYS check the brakes before leaving the parking lot because my foot just went to the floor. Brakes are a very faint suggestion in this cruiser. Brake booster and master cylinder both looked pretty much new so maybe just air in the lines?? Anyways I managed to not rear-end someone and go on with the test drive for another half a mile. I was giving it all it had from a stop just to see, 1st went well, 2nd was fine, put it into 3rd, and then this horrible, I mean horrendous noise started. I thought I had just blown the tranny. Pulled over to the side of the road and gave it a quick rev and the horrible noise increased more, so I knew something in the engine was wrong. Turned the car off, popped the hood, and it looked totally fine. Then after a bit of searching, I find that the entire engine had shifted over and the fan was smacking against the fan shroud (as seen below)



Well, good at least I hadn't caused any major catastrophic damage. My buddy called the dealership to ask what they wanted us to do with it (ended up saying just drive it back) so I took this time to look underneath the car. It's been totally under sprayed but even with that I couldn't see where much rust could be hiding underneath the under spray and the inside of the frame felt pretty clean, not bumpy or flakey or anything. Then I see some weird oily thing between the oil pan and transmission, I touch it and it's SOAKED in oil. So then I go to pull it out and it was just a big piece of foam to absorb a massive oil leak (rear main seal I'm assuming)



So uhhhhhh yea. Maybe the auction house did it, or the dealership, I'll get to that later. The oil pressure was in fact low, and stayed low, we checked the oil and it was only up to 1/4 on the dipstick (probably all leaked out into the foam) Anyways we drive it back which felt so so so wrong to do. One of the worst-sounding 3 minutes of my life, eventually the fan disintegrated enough and the noise stopped, then I did another hard pull just to see what would happen and it came back, sounding worse than the first time. Also, the front knuckles need a rebuild, and rear axle too as well, both covered in layers of oil and grease. I get in there and explain everything to the man in charge (the stereotypical kinda sleazy used car dealership guy) and explain everything I found and what's wrong etc etc. Freind offers him 10k for it and the guy says he's only gonna take $500 off of it. Also, the first thing I had said was that the rear axle needed a rebuild and they said they had rebuilt it, and so I asked why was it covered in years of grease and dirt to which they couldn't answer. Don't want to make up accusations or anything but the whole place just gave the vibe of that they would be the ones to put some foam to cover up the major oil leak, also if they were doing bearings and seals in the rear axle, how did they not see the massive oily foam piece when I saw it within 1 minute of looking under the car? Just very sketchy overall. I'm gonna call back in a week pretending to be a different person and ask about any oil leaks it has and see if they are in fact hiding it or if I actually had just brought it to their attention.

Other stuff: Windows go up and down sometimes, some only work when u do it from the individual window control, and others only work when you do them from the main driver window control. Electronic locks sometimes lock and unlock and sometimes don't, whenever they didn't you just heard a clicking. Driver window was very loose and flopping around within the door, A/C worked surprisingly great (don't know if it's been converted from R12 to R134a yet). Sunroof worked well, and then at the very end started clicking and wasn't happy. Steering had quite a bit of play, but it's a 30 y/o Land Cruiser, they told me to keep it running after I pulled up to the dealership and when we walked out it was still running (had been idling for like 15 minutes at that point) and the temp gauge was quite hot, I've never seen any cruiser gauge go above half unless it had something wrong with it and it was about 7/8's of the way up the gauge. The A/C was off by the way.

Pros: Engine sounded fine, ran perfectly, and was peppy. Transmission was great (other than 3rd gear sometimes), A/C worked great, it didn't seem to have much rust at all, and it's pretty cheap for a diesel cruiser over here (for many reasons though). I really can't think of much else.

Cons: Front knuckle rebuild needed, rear axle needs oil seals and bearings replaced (unless they actually did it), The engines fan hits the radiators fan shroud and sounds horrible (maybe bad motor mount), Big rear main seal leak (that was been hidden from the buyer), Low oil pressure (maybe from the low oil level). Heated up A LOT when idling, which was never a problem for my 62 or my troopy now. Windows and electronic locks were funky, to say the least. Oh yea and the passenger seat is just a racing seat, I've seen some funky stuff in Japanese imports but that may take the cake.

So to wrap this all up, it's pretty sketchy just all around. Sorry I didn't take more pictures or videos a lot was happening all at once and I didn't find this thread or knew it existed until after I went to check it out. Definitely know what you are getting into if you do go look at this. Made for a VERY interesting test drive at the least.
I need to take you with me anytime I test drive a rig so I can make sure it’s 👌
Way to out all of this info!!! Newbies like me would be taken for a ride so to speak. 🤨
 
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Man, that sounds like a POS, I can't believe they didn't take 10k, that thing is worth 7k at best.

Car dealers never care when you tell them whats wrong with a car. I can't count how many times I've told places this or that is a serious problem and their only response ever is fo you want to buy it...buyer beware as they say.
Yea I was honestly very surprised he only said $500 off with the 7 page English essay worth of problems I had just told him about.
I need to take you with me anytime I test drive a rig so I can make sure it’s 👌
Way to out all of this info!!! Newbies like me would be taken for a ride so to speak. 🤨
Haha, my friend now feels the same exact way. I only got into cruisers 2 years ago and have already learned so much. If you learn how to do the work yourself and what certain stuff does you will be right on track with me in no time! I hope my info can prevent someone from being ripped off but my guess is that they are gonna sit on it until some poor soul who is new to all of this and clueless buys it from them. Just what scummy used car dealerships do.
 

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