NON-USA split wheel question

[Red Fox Ranch]

Wondering who runs them and if you can run a radial tire on them or ??? I know that you must run a tube with them and I was asking a tire store the other day about this and the kid was telling me that with a radial tire the tube may heat up and maybe a safety issue. But I really don't know how reliable the kid was at the tire store or if he's just talking BS? I know there are many split rims in AUZ, but someone down under or in Canada probably has real world knowledge about them. Is it better to run a bias tire with them?

Also wondering how they balance and go down the road at say 60mph?

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Winslow]

This is intersting, I was wondering the same thing. Nothing really says non-US like split rims and maybe some ambulance doors too. I seem to recall seeing some pics on BFGs and Swampers on split rims, on the 70-series section. Look for there. I assume that they are all running with tubes, and I don't see why there would be an issue with tubes and balancing. Its just inflating the tire that makes some people nervous. On my dad's military vehicals, when we do a split rim we just plug in the compressor and walk around the corner. You don't see many tire shop with "cages" anymore, which were used to contain the explosions from when the tube gets pinched in the rim and blows up.

 

[brownbear]

I'm going to move this to the 70 section. Better chance there. Plus this is diesel tech, better in chassis section.. cheers

 

[Red Fox Ranch]

I'm going to move this to the 70 section. Better chance there. Plus this is diesel tech, better in chassis section.. cheers

Thanks brownbear, I was kinda wondering if this was a good section myself? But I thought lots of diesels had splits so I said what the hell I'll give it a shot here...

 

[ridgerunner]

I've run tubes with radials before. AFAIK, the heat is an old wives tale as I've never had a problem.

 

[ScottsHZJ80]

I think the kid was feeding you a load of BS.

Here in Aus the lower spec 78 and 79 series are supplied with split rims, running Dunlop Super Gripper 7.50R16. The R in the designation indicates this is a radial. I would guess Mr T did his homework regarding radials and split rims.

They seem to balance OK, but you need to put the ring back in the same spot after changing a tire in the bush where you can't rebalance the wheel.

 

[bigbrowndog]

Wondering who runs them and if you can run a radial tire on them or ??? I know that you must run a tube with them and I was asking a tire store the other day about this and the kid was telling me that with a radial tire the tube may heat up and maybe a safety issue. But I really don't know how reliable the kid was at the tire store or if he's just talking BS? I know there are many split rims in AUZ, but someone down under or in Canada probably has real world knowledge about them. Is it better to run a bias tire with them?

Also wondering how they balance and go down the road at say 60mph?

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

I would say he is just repeating what some one has told him to sound like an authority on the subject. Scotthzj80 has pretty well covered it. These radials with 8 ply side walls are far better where there are sharp rocks or tree roots and stakes in scrub country than wide wheels with soft sidewalls. The longer narrow footprint works well when the mud is an inch or two deep on dirt roads. The blokes on cattle stations prefer these here to wide tyres. They are also so easy to repair and can be pumped up by hand without an battery operated compressor.If you check the weights on that tyre , both sides I think that will answer the balance question. Cheers.

 

[brownbear]

Gazza, did you just finish painting these rims? They look good.


Spilt rims are great if you want to change the tire yourself, but bad in NA if you want a tire shop to do it, as many will refuse.

My local tire shop does them, as they feed the mining industry with tires, but many will not touch em.

I contemplated using these rims, then I decided on the 16 inch non usa non splits instead. They were also half the price. A split rim in Canada sells for 153 dollars each or so at Toyota(ENS).

My rims were 80 at my local Toyota. no shipping to pay for. I have since bought 11 of these rims. 2 for my M101 trailer, 1 spare, 4 summers, 4 winter tires

 

[owensexport]

I have run radials on split rims with tubes for years.

At one point, I found tubes that were rated for use in radial tires
but I think I have used mostly regular tubes.

If you have problems with your tire store, go to any dealer that
services big rig tires, they should be willing to do split rims no problem.

 

[cruiserjunktion]

I would say he is just repeating what some one has told him to sound like an authority on the subject. Scotthzj80 has pretty well covered it. These radials with 8 ply side walls are far better where there are sharp rocks or tree roots and stakes in scrub country than wide wheels with soft sidewalls. The longer narrow footprint works well when the mud is an inch or two deep on dirt roads. The blokes on cattle stations prefer these here to wide tyres. They are also so easy to repair and can be pumped up by hand without an battery operated compressor.If you check the weights on that tyre , both sides I think that will answer the balance question. Cheers.

these are the exact same tires I had removed

 

[bigbrowndog]

Gazza, did you just finish painting these rims? They look good.


Spilt rims are great if you want to change the tire yourself, but bad in NA if you want a tire shop to do it, as many will refuse.

My local tire shop does them, as they feed the mining industry with tires, but many will not touch em.

I contemplated using these rims, then I decided on the 16 inch non usa non splits instead. They were also half the price. A split rim in Canada sells for 153 dollars each or so at Toyota(ENS).

My rims were 80 at my local Toyota. no shipping to pay for. I have since bought 11 of these rims. 2 for my M101 trailer, 1 spare, 4 summers, 4 winter tires

They were painted with black epoxy at least 2/2 1/2 years ago, but I washed the dirt off so the details could be read. They had to put them in cages here in case the split rim blew off with the first inflating under workplace health and safety rules.There used to be a fair few heavy trucks and trailers that had split rims also. Most blokes buy the 15 inch sunnies for the older trucks as the 15 inch tyre is a lot cheaper than the 16 inch tyre and wide wheels are better on the bitumen also with the softer sidewall and more bag you get a better/ smoother ride. The splits usually sell for about $5.00 to $10.00 each secondhand but you do not see that many advertised for sale now days as the dealers mostly fit sunnies.What I don't like about them is if you do get a flat say doing a 100k's with a load on by the time you pull up the tyre is usually minced, especially scarey if it's the front wheel. Some of the older trucks here also had the non splits.cheers

 

[Red Fox Ranch]

Gazza, did you just finish painting these rims? They look good.


Spilt rims are great if you want to change the tire yourself, but bad in NA if you want a tire shop to do it, as many will refuse.

My local tire shop does them, as they feed the mining industry with tires, but many will not touch em.

I contemplated using these rims, then I decided on the 16 inch non usa non splits instead. They were also half the price. A split rim in Canada sells for 153 dollars each or so at Toyota(ENS).

My rims were 80 at my local Toyota. no shipping to pay for. I have since bought 11 of these rims. 2 for my M101 trailer, 1 spare, 4 summers, 4 winter tires

Thanks for all your replies, I always like to hear the real world experiences... brownbear do you have any pics you could post up of your 16" non splits?

 

[brownbear]

42601-60262-03 is the Toyota part number

Here is a shot of one of Crushers Bj44's he re-did.

My rims looked the same on my BJ60

 

[brownbear]

Oh and that is a 235/85R16 same tire size I run. Great size on a 60.