New Rubber for My LX 450

[Fredo24]

[FONT=&quot]Just returned from my first trip to the beach with my new LX 450 Locked. I have taken a 4Runner for five years on this very beach with Goodyear Wranglers and really never had a problem getting stuck but today I had to use all the diff locks to get home. I have the stock Michelins on the truck I guess they are not designed for the sand. So needless to say I am in the market for new tires, I have done some research on this site and others and am considering the Bridgestone Dueler Revo's. Any comments? I use this truck pretty much for the beach and bad weather in the Northeast. Also I was considering getting a bigger size 285/75 RR16s (the largest size Revo’s). Would there be any problems with this size without any lift and how would it effect the speedometer? Thanks
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[CodyRx7]

Stock Michelins are designed to move your LC or LX from your house to the tire shop, thats about it.

 

[eurorom]

Stock Michelins are designed to move your LC or LX from your house to the tire shop, thats about it.

Not necessarly, I did use the Michelines for a long time and they did great on sand, the only place I was worried was on the rocky trails, I think he had some problems because he did not air down to around 15psi maybe I am wrong.

i speak out of experience with this tires.

Now I have Geolanders AT+II and they are great more traction and better peace of mine!

My 03 cents!

As for the size, you may go with 285's and they will do great with out a lift, you will notice a little loss of power, but you can get a speedometer correction from Slee.

 

[Bear80]

Stock tires wil do far better in the sand than any mud tire and better than most all terrains. I've dug my 'cruiser up to the frame pulling someone out of the sand. That's the only time I had to use the lockers and I wasn't aired down. Let me tell you too that Xterrains LOVE to dig to bottom of the sand pit but never need much more than the center locked.

 

[jfz80]

for 285's i wouldnt spend for the speedo correction. i think that would be around a 6% increase in tire size so at a 100 your only doin 106 Agreed; airing down is the key in sand, much lower than you think you should go, or would go in the rocks. also you might want to take a look at the Nitto terra grapplers or the old stand by BFG's, both still respectable on road.

 

[CappyKD]

I'm going Terra Grapplers in 285 75 16 next week. In fact it's one of the first places I'm headed once I pick the truck up and change all the fluids. Then it's off to the tire shop..

 

[corsair23]

To save you some time searching for pics of what 285s look like on a LX with the stock suspension here are some shots (275s stock suspension, 285s stock suspension, and 285s with OME 2.5" heavy lift)

Depending upon the tire you will notice a small to moderate affect on both the power and stopping. The weight of the tires compared to stock has a lot to do with this. I went with the Toyo MTs (I don't drive in sand other than the little you find in Moab) and they are a fairly heavy tire compared to stock and other 285s. Tirerack.com is a good source for tire specs if you don't want to search each manufacturer's site individually.

As for the Revos. I had those on my '99 Durango and the had them on her '02 Liberty before we traded in both for Cruisers . They seemed like a decent tire overall...acceptable in all conditions but not stellar in any in particular. But they are an AT. My one complaint was that I wasn't all that impressed with their wear. After only 15K on the Durango they were under 1/2 tread but supposedly have a 50K tread life warranty (or did).

On the speedometer...In the 80 series FAQs (click here) there is a big section on tires (here) that explain the affect of going up in tire size. For me going from stock Michellin size to the Toyos made a 5.45% difference in my speedometer and odometer (both reading lower than actual). You can correct for it mechanically in various ways or just figure out in your head that what your true speed is at various speeds and adjust accordingly.



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[BROKEROB1]

I would highly recommend the Revo's. I put mine on my LC at 90k and I am close to 140k miles and I still have about 30% treadlife left. They are still quiet, they have worn evenly, and still do well in the sand, light mud/rocks, and displace water on the turnpike at 65 mph. I would probably stick with the stock size on the Revo's, as I really dislike the loss of power with the 33", especially if you tow or drive in the mountains.

 

[concretejungle]

you got to air any tire down on the sand to make it work well. Even boggers will sink if aired all the way up.

 

[Fredo24]

I know that you have to air down when driving on sand but I never had to with my 4Runner. I was always prepared to do so if I got stuck but I never did. As to tire size any advantage to the larger size besides the look? Thanks for your time and sharing of your knowledge.

 

[Rookie2]

I know that you have to air down when driving on sand but I never had to with my 4Runner.

You have to keep in mind, and 80 weighs substantially more than a 4 Runner. That makes a bigger difference when in loose sand or deep snow.


Rookie2

 

[stevezero]

On my taco, my michelins did much better in the sand than my BFG AT's. They floated, and the straight grooves in the tired made them track better in the sand. They never once dug in. The BFG's were a different story.....

I put Yokohama Geolander AT+II's on my LX. Had it on the beach last spring with the michelins, so I'll have some good data points for you. I like the geolanders, They are the more aggressive tread pattern, not the geolander 1's...

The weight diferrence between a 4 runner and lx has to be at least 1500-2000 lbs....Thats like sayin "I never had a problem sinking when I was humpin Jennifer Lopez, but I damn near died when i mounted rosie o donnell.."...

 

[corsair23]

The weight diferrence between a 4 runner and lx has to be at least 1500-2000 lbs....Thats like sayin "I never had a problem sinking when I was humpin Jennifer Lopez, but I damn near died when i mounted rosie o donnell.."...

 

[corsair23]

I know that you have to air down when driving on sand but I never had to with my 4Runner. I was always prepared to do so if I got stuck but I never did. As to tire size any advantage to the larger size besides the look? Thanks for your time and sharing of your knowledge.

x2 (or is it x3 now?) on the weight difference

As to advantages of going up in tire size...Yes there are advantages depending on your plans but like everything else in life those advantages may be outweighed by the disadvantages. If you haven't already done so, read the tire FAQs. Good info in there that many people went to a lot of work to put together

 

[NorCalDoug]

the revos are a very good tire and will handle pretty much whatever you throw at it...except for deep mud.

I have a set on my wife's 80. i'd get them again.

 

[MyCrush]

I would highly recommend the Revo's. I put mine on my LC at 90k and I am close to 140k miles and I still have about 30% treadlife left. They are still quiet, they have worn evenly, and still do well in the sand, light mud/rocks, and displace water on the turnpike at 65 mph. I would probably stick with the stock size on the Revo's, as I really dislike the loss of power with the 33", especially if you tow or drive in the mountains.

My experience/opinion almost exactly, with the tire beginning mileage and nearly where I am now currently mileage-wise at 130+k. However, as compared to my unused5th wheel, the 4 tires are only down 50% from where they were new.
LOVE these tires !