Need some mentoring while rebuilding ....

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I was able to get a F engine+trans+t/c in the same nic as all yours. After having that t/c sit on the shop floor for a bit I found the front output seal was leaking. This might be a good time for you to at least replace those seals.

I was lucky in that I am super uptight and bought a beautifully rebuilt t/c from Georg (Valley Hybrids) which will be slapped on. Just my $.02!
 
You might have tranny tunnel clearance issues with the 4spd tranny, also your rear crossmember is going to be a tight fit.

Do not throw away any parts! There are folks that would love to have some F/3spd stuff! Definitely get in touch with the Colorado Land Cruiser section down in the Springs, and even some folks in Rising Sun could provide some useful help if needed! Also stop by Redline Land Cruisers over in Calhan when you get a chance! Great folks!

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Before shoving it in, I would consider replacing any leaky gaskets/seals on engine/tranny/transfer, replace rubber hoses (coolant etc.), and checking/machining clutch.
 
ElHefe said:
Have you considered an electronic ignition swap or gear reduction starter?

I have .... I think I'll keep the points until I actually have problems ... l grew up with points and found them reliable and easy to work with .... I installed one of those starters on my 78 f-150 .... It sounded kind of cool, but didn't see any other benefit .... It lasted about 18 months before needing replaced ....

Definitely a couple things to think about though .... Thanks much ....
 
subzali said:
You might have tranny tunnel clearance issues with the 4spd tranny, also your rear crossmember is going to be a tight fit.

Do not throw away any parts! There are folks that would love to have some F/3spd stuff! Definitely get in touch with the Colorado Land Cruiser section down in the Springs, and even some folks in Rising Sun could provide some useful help if needed! Also stop by Redline Land Cruisers over in Calhan when you get a chance! Great folks!

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Before shoving it in, I would consider replacing any leaky gaskets/seals on engine/tranny/transfer, replace rubber hoses (coolant etc.), and checking/machining clutch.

Tight fit, but still doable I hope, yes?

I never throw anything away ... Well, except for the original F block ... The cylinders were scored, I knew I would never use the F over a 2F, and it was just getting in my way .... I still have many parts from that F however ... And a complete 2F sitting on an engine stand in the corner of my garage, that I never rebuilt ... I don't plan on keeping these around once my LC is on the road, but I will give both the clubs you mentioned first dibs before they hit Craigslist or the dump ...

I have a Rising Sun member on the side keeping me straight and offering assistance .... I've sent a ton of emails to CLC over the 8 years that I've had the LC, with no response .... Thanks for the link, I'll take a gander at their section of the site ... As far as Redline Land Cruisers; they need to freakin advertise! .... They are like a stones throw from me, and I never knew they existed until you pointed them out .... I'll stop in the next time I go through Calhan ....

I'll replace all the hoses ... Can't see any leaks to speak of .... Thought about dropping the oil pan to clean out any sludge and replace the gasket; but afraid I might actually create a leak .... another member early in this thread mentioned replacing the series 55 water pump .... I expect I can pull that off the spare 2F engine ....

Thanks very much for pointing out those resources .... Carl
 
To all the forum members that have swapped an engine/drivetrain .....

What should I look for and/or replace while I have the complete drivetrain out of the vehicle? .... i.e. what preventive maintenance is best to do now while I have such good access? ....

Replace clutch, PP, rear main seal, throwout bearing and hub, maybe clutch fork and it's pivot ball too if they show any goofy wear. Turn the flywheel. Oh, and replace little cam freeze plug thingie back there too, IIRC.

Went to swap in a complete drivetrain just like you. Drove the donor truck, seemed fine. Pulled drivetrain out, bought all the parts, had a spare flywheel turned, then said to myself, "Self" I sez, "you're paranoid. That truck had only 140K on it and drove fine. Just stab 'er in and go. Forget that clutch." That's what I do. Fifteen miles later, clutch starts slippin', no amount of adjusting, cursing, praying, or self-flagellation make any difference whatsoever. Finally accepting the inevitable, go to pull the trans, bellhousing bolts will NOT budge. An hour of more cursing, self-flagellation, etc., and I drill a hole through the firewall to access bellhousing. The saga continues but I think you get the point.

"Do it! Do it now! I'm here, come and get me!" Arnold Schwarzenegger

Outstanding rig BTW, good luck!
 
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what are the chances that the transmission and transfer case shift levers are going to match up with my existing 3sp tunnel holes? ..... should I remove the access panel prior to installation and prepare to modify it? ......
I really don't know. My 71 was originally 3 on the tree with a vacuum actuated t-case. When it was converted to 3 on the floor, the hole cut into the tunnel for the shifter matched up when I put in the 4 speed transmission. You should plan to remove the transmission hump cover, at a minimum it will improve access for installation.

To all the forum members that have swapped an engine/drivetrain .....

What should I look for and/or replace while I have the complete drivetrain out of the vehicle? .... i.e. what preventive maintenance is best to do now while I have such good access? ....
You should look to achieve a balance (between risk mitigation, time and dollars) that you will be comfortable with. At a minimum you should visually inspect everything. Are there tell tale signs of leaks? Are there cracks? Go ahead and remove the parking brake drum and inspect the shoes.

Beyond the visual inspection, you might consider replacing all gaskets and seals. If you go with replacing gaskets and seals, you will be dropping the oil pan, so you might consider inspecting the bearings and the oil pump gears. If you did any of the previous, you have already seperated the transmission from the bellhousing, so you should inspect the clutch and flywheel. And as long as you have gone this far, you might consider seperating the t-case from the tranny and replacing all the gaskets - of course while you have them opened up you might consider measuring all the clearances.

Presuming the inspections don't find any issues, you have put in a few hours time and few dollars (ok more than a few less than a couple of hundred) in gaskets and seals - and you will have put eyes and gauges to just about everything. Of course, if your inspections find issues you will put in more time and dollars to address the issues. Every issue that you take care of now, is an issue that you likely won't have to revisit for a long, long time.

The balance for each individual and their circumstances is different. In my case, I replaced gaskets and seals, turned the flywheel, bought a new clutch and slapped a used engine, tranny and t-case right into my truck. It ran great and I was happy. A few months later, I had a cracked block and pulled the whole works out, rebuilt an engine and then installed it all back. Knowing what I know now, I would have been time and dollars ahead if I had rebuilt the engine (and learned at that time about the cracked block) when I was at the same stage as where you are at. That said, I would do it all the same way because (for me) it was the right balance and what I was comfortable with at the time.

Getting back to the specifics of your situation. Take some measurements of the flanges on the t-case where the drive shafts attach and then measure the flanges on the differentials. You will likely find the size and spacing of the holes is different. In addition to driveshaft lengths, this is another issue that has to be addressed when putting a 4 speed into the earlier FJ40s. There are many ways to address the issue, but perhaps the most straight forward approach is to call Kurt at Cruiser Outfitters and buy new flanges for the differentials.
 
Looks great. Great fourty in great condition. I think you.ll be happier with the f enfine. I was going to put a 350 in mine and am glad I didn.t.. you.ll love the original power train
 
Good Buy!
Well done!!!!
Hey, as it sits now, does your water temp gauge needle point all the way to the right , or to the left?
I'm having probs getting my water temp gauge to work... on my red, 1972 hard top FJ-40...
 
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