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[ktmracer01]

i had the FSM but since the family is moving to bolivia, everything in my shop here at the house has been put into storage already. so today, i bent over a smiled at the toyota dealership and had the cruiser taken down on a tow truck. if they can narrow don the issue with the FSM and an OBDII scanner, i think i'll be able to repair the vehicle on my own. I know the service writer and several of the technicians so hopefully they'll treat me right. it's just scary being a poor college student and having the dealership fix "moms" landcruiser. i'll keep everyone posted and up to date on anything and everything that comes of this unusual situtation.

 

[Gumby]

The truck won't move in park, but it will in neutral?

That kind of indicates that the drive train is whole from the output drum on the trans to the hubs.

I think you might just be stick in neutral. Hopefully just the transmission shift linkage.

Internal transmission damage is certainly a possibility.

 

[EricG]

Out of curiosity, which Colorado Springs toyota dealership did you take it to? Liberty Toyota North (on Academy) or South?

I've been happier with the parts dept. at the North store, and they provide meeting space and TLCA discounts for the local Landcruiser club.

Probably to late now, but you might try posting to the "Colorado Land Cruisers" club forum here (https://forum.ih8mud.com/forumdisplay.php?f=85) if any local contacts might help. Or PM me - I'm only a or guy, but if I can help...

Good luck, and keep us posted.

 

[ktmracer01]

just talked to the toyota service writer and i've got bad news. apparently they concluded that there is no fluid flowing through the tranny, and the clicking noise that i heard was a shift solenoid that was trying to engage. the only problem now is what could have caused this mysterious loss of tranny pressure. is it the torque converter, or is it possible the spline shaft where the torque converter meets the tranny?? looking a big $$$ to have the tranny pulled apart and inspected through toyota, with no guarantee on any parts or labor. i think i just need to locate a used tranny here locally ( within 100 miles) and try to pull it and install myself before i go back to school in Roswell (RosHell), NM for classes on Monday.

 

[Beowulf]

Slow down.

You don't have a sig line that tells us which year of 80 you have.

Do some advanced searching using Keyword=solenoid, tran* here in the 80-section. If that pulls too many to research then look for one with Author=cruiserdan. (OK, I found the link for you: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=1579 )

The A442 tranny has been known to lose shift solenoids and those are fairly easy to replace. It might be a job you can tackle yourself so check the posts. As I recall, the parts were not too spendy.

Later... OK, I went back and read the start of this thread and you have a 1994 with the A442 tranny. That means you *really* need to just replace the solenoids before you go putting in a used transmission (not a trivial undertaking.)

-B-

 

[Slomo]

You would be wise to follow Beowulf's advice.

 

[ktmracer01]

thanks for the help. i talked to several tranny shops around town, and there is one that has worked on many toyota vehicles over the years and thinks that it is possibly something small and relatively easy to replace. So thats where it went today since i already have a F-250 in my garge that i started working on before the Landcruiser went "downhill" that i have to finish before i leave friday.
Liberty Toyota (north) didn't charge me anything to look at the tranny when they had it since they didn't come up with anything other than the loss of pressure in the tranny. I can't tell people enough about how professional they are there. I also feel that they are one of few dealers in town that aren't trying to rip people off.

 

[Slomo]

Glad to hear that all is fairly painless thus far. Hope it comes out cheap and let us know the final verdict.

 

[Nay]

thanks for the help. i talked to several tranny shops around town, and there is one that has worked on many toyota vehicles over the years and thinks that it is possibly something small and relatively easy to replace. So thats where it went today since i already have a F-250 in my garge that i started working on before the Landcruiser went "downhill" that i have to finish before i leave friday.
Liberty Toyota (north) didn't charge me anything to look at the tranny when they had it since they didn't come up with anything other than the loss of pressure in the tranny. I can't tell people enough about how professional they are there. I also feel that they are one of few dealers in town that aren't trying to rip people off.

Liberty North tried to sell me a 1997 80 with 140K miles, an engine that wasn't working properly, and an interior that looked like it had been owned by a 3 year old for the last 9 years for $16,500.

Glad to hear they helped you out

 

[EricG]

Liberty North tried to sell me a 1997 80 with 140K miles, an engine that wasn't working properly, and an interior that looked like it had been owned by a 3 year old for the last 9 years for $16,500.

That would be sales - not parts & service.
A used car salesman is a used car salesman - regardless of where you are

Glad to hear they helped you out

Any final resolution from the OP?

 

[ktmracer01]

ok...here goes.
so i had the landcruiser dropped off at "Academy Transmissions" in Colorado Springs, CO. I spoke to them on the phone prior to service and felt comfortable with the knowledge and understanding of toyota transmissions. Or so I thought....:whoops:

maybe it's just me, but i have never had a vehicle serviced by a mechanic, that was always left up to my family members when I wasn't home to repair. so i was extremely nervous having anyone work on the truck.

turns out, the torque converter crapped out, and so did the pump on the tranny. total cost: $4100.00

this is considering a partial rebuild, a bad bearing in the tranny ( that toyota apparently di continued), a reman pump, a reman torque converter, seals/ gaskets, lube, and labor involved with pulling and installing.

never heard of a torque converter gonig out, and a pump going out at the same time with absolutely no noise?! I wanted to be there to check up on things, but I had to get back to school here in RosHell, NM. So the mechanic was supposed to keep any and all used parts for my viewing pleasure once the vehicle is picked up.

it's apparently all back together now and running great. I know i was just bent over backwards, but has anyone ever heard of a tranny doing something like this without any noise, except GM vehicles?

also, how many 4WD Toyota Trannies are 1 piece units ( w/out being able to remove t-case from tranny without having drop the whole transmission)? I mean 4 Runners, Mini Trucks, LandCruisers? cuz to my knowledge, or at least any that I've worked on, almost all of them have been a two piece unit.

 

[Grench]

Wow... He's proud of his work.

I checked an online place I used to buy parts from before I found out about Cruiserdan... They're showing a whole new transmission for about $3K give or take based on year. That includes the $1,000 core bounty... So...

That was on a '96...

1994 is showing $4.5K no core. YEEEOOUUCCCHH.


Ouch.

 

[ktmracer01]

for some reason, 94 was a bad year i guess. I checked out online for trannies, and only found a couple different aftermarket tranny places. I felt more like going back towards a complete factory unit and i didn't really have any time to put in a used unit with high miles.

 

[e9999]

assuming that this was really the problem (sorry), any thought on whether the towing attempt could have caused that or was that just a coincidence?

 

[ktmracer01]

def. wasn't the towing effort. It was making some vibrating noises internally for a couple years, and i feel that is what the culprit was. but the lack of noise and grinding is what is confusing to me when the tranny went out

 

[IdahoDoug]

def. wasn't the towing effort. It was making some vibrating noises internally for a couple years, and i feel that is what the culprit was. but the lack of noise and grinding is what is confusing to me when the tranny went out

Um. That would have been good to know at the beginning of the thread - not the end.

DougM

 

[ktmracer01]

it's my mothers cruiser, and I didn't know until after I broke it, and I was on my way back to RosHell, NM.

 

[Slomo]

def. wasn't the towing effort. It was making some vibrating noises internally for a couple years, and i feel that is what the culprit was. but the lack of noise and grinding is what is confusing to me when the tranny went out

Crazy coincidence on the timing.

it's my mothers cruiser, and I didn't know until after I broke it, and I was on my way back to RosHell, NM.

I hope she is paying for it if it's her Cruiser, and she drove it making vibrating noises for a couple years. Either way sucks you guys are out that much dough.

 

[ktmracer01]

you're right, it is a coincidence that it happened when it did, but i'm just glad it didnt leave me stranded somewhere in the boonies of New Mexico, on my way to Roswell.
As far as repair bills, those are to be decided. I was driving when it broke, so I feel responsible, there for obligated to payment. But thats whats cool about paying parents back, they have extended payment options.