M101CDN first title (1 Viewer)

[belzurkur]

I recently bought an M101CDN trailer that has never been titled in the US. It was one of several bought and transported by the seller's local jeep club about 9 years ago. He didn't receive any paperwork with the trailer and never had a license plate on it in Colorado. The trailer does have the original data plate and serial number on it.

I called my local Nevada DMV, and I have two options.

1. Go the home-built route.
2. Get some paperwork on the trailer from Canada stating it's free and clear and title it as a DEW Engineering and Development Ltd trailer.

Does anyone have any experience with #2?

Thanks in advance.

 

[rutbeer]

I live in Colorado and had the same problem. I had to go route #1 just recently. They wanted a title and the state I lived in before never required one. The paperwork and hassle was becoming ridiculous, so ......
While calling it home-built is not completely accurate, it has been modified, and will continue to be. At some point, it will be more scratch than store.

 

[AustinCruiser]

x2 on the home built route. I just registered my M416 for the first time here in Texas as a home built. It took me all of 10 minutes

 

[Brentbba]

Original PO of mine went the home built route in AZ for what that's worth and even with an AZ plate, I registered it as home built here in the Republik of Kalifornia too. PO had removed the original registration plate and just had one made up and installed on the trailer. Keep the original one tho!

 

[swampman]

homebuilt......

 

[belzurkur]

Thanks for the replies.

If anyone is curious as to if DEW Engineering could help, they can't. I thought it might be worth a try.

DEW manufactured these trailers solely for use by the Canadian Military and they were never intended to be operated by citizens on commercial roads. As a result, we have no information that we can provide.

Best regards,

R Neil Hutton, P.Eng.
Senior Director Business Development

 

[deebee]

DEW manufactured these trailers solely for use by the Canadian Military and they were never intended to be operated by citizens on commercial roads. As a result, we have no information that we can provide.

Interesting........I get the "citizens" part, but they were pulled behind the military's Iltis every day of the week on "commercial roads".

 

[greentruck]

Interesting........I get the "citizens" part, but they were pulled behind the military's Iltis every day of the week on "commercial roads".

That's corp speak for"We don't say anything that we might get sued for." All about liability, which they're probably protected from, unless they get involved now that the government has sold them off.

Yeah, no sweat as far as the road capabilities.

But realistically, all those trailers had one owner as far as DEW is concerned, CDF. No need for any separate titling at that point. Never an issue until someone who has bought them surplus needs to put them on the road. Then the fun begins.

BTW, another state that doesn't title trailers this small is Iowa, which is where our little baby came from.

 

[inthewall]

I registered mine, but couldn't get a title. I tried the home built route, but the person doing the vin inspection wanted receipts. I couldn't get a free of lienholder document from the importer. Im going to gather some receipts for axle, steel, rims, and tires, then try it again on the home built angle.

 

[prado t]

Top speed of Canadian Convoys is or are 80km/h which is 50 mph when I used to do it. I can see the problem. That is the top speed of our MLVW or Deuce and a half. They are or were all registered as D.N.D. Department of National Defence.

Your best bet is to go home built, because these were only ment to go a certain speed 80km/h--50 mp/h.( 1-1 charlie )signing off. lol
Good Luck !


Factoid
P.s. Back in the late 80s we would train down in Yakima WA for Karl G training / M-72 and of course L.A.W. rocket just when the Hummer came to. We would compare our 2-1/2 tons;
American 2-1/2 = Tandem dually axles in the back 6 cylinder turbocharged diesel with 5 speed Spicer gearbox= Fun
Canadian 2-1/2 = Tandem singles in the back 8 cylinder (8.2l non turbo detroit) 4 stroke similar to the 6.2l just 2l larger with 4 speed Allison Auto = boring and top speed of 80/50 so while going down the road in 4th that poor motor is doing 3500rpm all day on the governor.

 

[greentruck]

Somewhere I saw where the M101 CDN trailers were tested up to 90 kph. That must've given the testers a heck of a ride compared to 80 kph, but where did the Canadians get a prime mover to pull it that fast?

Seriously, the hubs are a stock design that is widely used on civilian commercial trailers that are legal at any speed you can legally drive. There's nothing about the 80 kph speed limit on the M101 that has to do with safety based on mechanical limitations. The speed limit is there for the micro-management of the troops.

 

[canman]

Thanks for the replies.

If anyone is curious as to if DEW Engineering could help, they can't. I thought it might be worth a try.

DEW manufactured these trailers solely for use by the Canadian Military and they were never intended to be operated by citizens on commercial roads. As a result, we have no information that we can provide.

Best regards,

R Neil Hutton, P.Eng.
Senior Director Business Development

DEW - Hahaha. I work for DND, and one of my old bosses was the engineer responsible for these trailers. I still have a bunch of his old files on painting/ corrosion as this was a big problem when DEW built them. About 5-6 yrs ago, a local auction house was selling off a bunch of Iltis's and these trailers. They couldn't get anyone to buy the trailers for $400.00, and some were in very good shape.