Lifting only 1 inch or so ?

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dclee said:
On a related note, I too am only planning on about one inch (or so...) of lift in front. Do you guys recommend a diff drop kit for that? I figure: why not, it should put the axle pretty much straight back to stock, no? I can't see a reason not too (except for the money, but it's not too expensive, all things considered).

TIA,

Derek,
What method are you going to lift it in the rear? (spacer, longer spring, airbag) I assume you're going to crank the stock t-bar or are you going to go with the OME? Are you going to change out shocks too, maybe Bilsteins?

I wouldn't think it would hurt a thing to drop the diff. The lift and diff drop should net out to no change to the cv angles.
 
Greg B said:
Derek,
What method are you going to lift it in the rear? (spacer, longer spring, airbag) I assume you're going to crank the stock t-bar or are you going to go with the OME? Are you going to change out shocks too, maybe Bilsteins?

I wouldn't think it would hurt a thing to drop the diff. The lift and diff drop should net out to no change to the cv angles.


Greg -

I'm thinking OME coils in back, though not sure which ones yet (865/866 may yield more lift than I want, unless my rear bumper ends up being heftier than I think; I might also look at some of the shorter 80 Series options, like the 862).

I'm thinking OME T-bars for the front, with zero or very little crankage. With the ARB bumper, I'll tune it for about a 1-1.5" lift. My stock T-bars are cranked right now to support the ARB, but I don't think I can go much higher on the OEM bars without adversely affecting the ride and handling qualities.

For now, at least, I'm thinking of sticking with the OEM shocks (is Toyota still using Tokico as their supplier?). Just not sure how they'll dampen the OME springs. Eventually I'd love to have Bilstein's on ALL my vehicles. I won't be going back to OME for shocks (the existence of the magical "L" shock not-withstanding...).
 
So with a 1" lift the stock shock length should be fine? What about 2" lift?
 
IMHO I would just get it all done with the OME T-bars, springs, and shocks all around ... and then you really need 33" because the factory 31" look a little puny with the 2" OME lift. Also remove you running boards.
 
rzpapp said:
IMHO I would just get it all done with the OME T-bars, springs, and shocks all around ... and then you really need 33" because the factory 31" look a little puny with the 2" OME lift. Also remove you running boards.

That's a better ride for you and me. :beer:

Not sure about him though.

He wants a "stock" ride. The 865's are still cush. The T-bars are too (kinda), but not as much as stock.
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
That's a better ride for you and me. :beer:

Not sure about him though.

He wants a "stock" ride. The 865's are still cush. The T-bars are too (kinda), but not as much as stock.


Who are you talking about John? Speaking once again for others? If it's me, I never said anything about "stock," just don't want it riding like a rock around town. Why should I settle for that when the nice ride is part of what I paid MSRP $65K for??? While a bit firmer would be nice for handling, I don't see the need to go too far away from that, especially when I have another Cruiser that I can jump into if I want my kidneys pounded... :rolleyes:
 
dclee said:
Who are you talking about John? Speaking once again for others? If it's me, I never said anything about "stock," just don't want it riding like a rock around town. Why should I settle for that when the nice ride is part of what I paid MSRP $65K for??? While a bit firmer would be nice for handling, I don't see the need to go too far away from that, especially when I have another Cruiser that I can jump into if I want my kidneys pounded... :rolleyes:

Re-read who's quoting who for your answer.
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
Re-read who's quoting who for your answer.


Please point out where in this thread either myself or the original poster ever said we preferred a 100% "stock" ride?
 
dclee said:
Please point out where in this thread either myself or the original poster ever said we preferred a 100% "stock" ride?

RZPAPP.....I responded to him. I thought this was the thread about the lift and long drives and stock ride. Ooops.

Looking back at his post. I stand by my response. Keep the factory T-bars and add the OME elsewhere. Add a bumper, add OME T-bars.
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
RZPAPP.....I responded to him. I thought this was the thread about the lift and long drives and stock ride. Ooops.

Looking back at his post. I stand by my response. Keep the factory T-bars and add the OME elsewhere. Add a bumper, add OME T-bars.


I hear ya.

Since I have a bumper (and, possibly, eventually, a winch), I'll look into OME T-bars and Bilstein's all around. Still have to put some thought into the rear coils. Don't necessarily need it super stiff for weight carrying since I'll have AirLifts back there to handle varying cargo loads.
 
I'd put OME t-bars on a stock 100 even if I wasn't going to lift it. They just change the front end so nicely. No more nose diving down when you hit the brakes.

For someone wanting a 1 inch lift but a much nicer ride you could go a different route. If it were me and I only wanted to go 1 inch higher, I would go with OME t-bars and Bilsteins up front. On the rear, I would add a one inch spacer to the factory coil and Bilstein shocks. I think that would firm things up and give a really nice, sporty ride. The rear coil is the only thing throwing me off a bit. What you really need is an 865 that only gives one inch of lift, then you'd be set.

Keep in mind, this is all theory and opinion on my part. Knowing what I know about the OME t-bars though, they ride really nice even on an un-modified rig. It was the first upgrade I did to mine and they really made the 100 drive nice.
 
Anyone even confirm whether Bilsteins can support a 1" lift? I would like to get these but, would at least like to put an inch lift on them.
 
Well I can't confirm on the billy's but OME "lift" front shocks from what I understand are the same length as the factory shocks so I would say on the front billy's should work fine. But no word on the rear... yet.
 
So if I only want to adjust my front t/bars to level out the vehicle, cranking up the OEM t/bars 1" higher than standard shouldnt create any problems. At the moment I have 280mm from the guard to the top of the 16" rim, if I increase this to 305mm will it cause any other problems. I just want to get rid of the saggy front look after fitting the ARB steel bar. cheers
 
Cranking the t-bars up 1" should be fine but check the CV joints around the bands for leakage after a few hundred km's. A Slee diff drop would be ideal but not necessary.
 

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