Kenyon campsite - August 22-23, 2009

[d0ubledown]

nope..i was heading westbound, coming back from jones lake. read your other thread about the deer. crappy deal, but i think you did the best thing, considering the circumstances and situation. you actually think cops in princeton would show up? theyve got better things to do like wait up by the sandmann inn with their lasers...

 

[canucksafari]

you actually think cops in princeton would show up? theyve got better things to do like wait up by the sandmann inn with their lasers...

They'd only have reason to catch me if I was going down a long hill. But yes, I was kind of hoping the kids would have found them there. The irony is that all the time I was telling the looky loos to keep back and how sharp their hoofs are and how hard they can kick and its me that gets nailed. Where in the hell is the Karma in that?

 

[Enigma]

I have an interesting option to the typical wood picnic table that is often chopped up and burned these days.
One of our plastics vendors was just in showing us his latest products, and one that caught my eye was a picture of a picnic table on his "Greenplus Lumber" brochure.

Recycled Plastic Lumber (GREENPLUS)

"Redco Greenplus lumber can last up to 30 years, and can be 60% cheaper than cedar" .

Perhaps Mr. Dillon would be interested in mentioning this is to his forestry contact?

 

[canucksafari]

If it is burnable then I wouldn't want it up there. Sure as hell some idiot(s) will torch it and then you have a bigger mess and potentially worse fire on your hands.

Kim and I had kicked around the idea of making cement picnic tables after we saw the usual destruction at Hale. They could either be made on site or made or purchased here and trucked in pieces for assembly there. But even then, I wouldn't give them more then a year or two (unless built very solid). Inevitabley some yahoo will try to drive up on it for a poser shot of his flex.

Of course, the other option is no picnic tables.

 

[kim]

My first thought with plastic is 'how well do they burn'? The yahoo that burns a nice wood table wouldn't think twice about burning a plastic one.

I think concrete is the way to go.

This time around, we will install whatever we are given, IMO.

 

[canucksafari]

I think concrete is the way to go.

Yes, a solid block table. There is lots of rock on the way up to fill a table form with. Then edge the whole thing with bed frame angle iron to keep the edges from being ripped up by posers' tires.

 

[d0ubledown]

i say no table...concrete if any. perhaps a fire ring...but things like tables just tend to get trashed and not used and respected as intended. but then again...i always bring a table or 2 so i dont really care for rec site tables

 

[kim]

i say no table...concrete if any. perhaps a fire ring...but things like tables just tend to get trashed and not used and respected as intended. but then again...i always bring a table or 2 so i dont really care for rec site tables

The Ministry has advertised the site as having a picnic table, fire-ring and outhouse so that is what we will be doing.

 

[jfc]

'how well do they burn'?

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Pretty good, not as good as tires or car seats

 

[kim]

OK, so here is a preliminary list of tools and materials that immediately come to mind;

List of stuff to bring for Kenyon;


1. 4 shovels I have 2, need 2 more
2. 1 Wrecking bar I have
3. 2 Rakes I have 2
4. 2 wheel barrow I have 1, need 1 more
5. 1 trailer the more the merry
6. 1 sweed saw I have 1
7. 2 clippers, big and small I have both
8. 1 tool box, wrenches and ratchets I have
9. bag lag bolts Maybe have
10. bag garbage bags I need
11. 4 gloves I have, bringem if you got em
12. 2 cordless drills I have two, 4 batteries
13. 1 Box drillbits I have
14. 1 red robby bits I have
15. 1 chain saw I need
16. bags portland cement I need
17. various forming material I have
18. 1 toolbelt I have
19. 1 bag robby screws, 2 1/2, 3 1/2 I have
20. 1 level I have
21. 1 handsaw I have
22. bag nails, 2 1/2, 3 1/2 I have
23. various trowels I have
24. roll plastic I have
25. various steel for pad I have some rebar
26. 5 5 gallon pails I need
27. 1 screen for fill/gravel I think I have
28. 1 axe I have
29. 2 sledge hammers, big, small I have
30. bundle stakes I need
Feel free to offer opinions and ideas.

 

[canucksafari]

How about a backhoe to dig the hole for the outhouse? Lots of rock there. If no backhoe then maybe a few sticks of gentle persuation.

 

[BC_FJC]

I can bring the following

Shovels one long and one short
Rake
Garbage bags
Clippers
Gloves
Chain saw
Axes
Bundle stakes I have some but might need more

 

[kim]

How about a backhoe to dig the hole for the outhouse? Lots of rock there. If no backhoe then maybe a few sticks of gentle persuation.

I wish! This is going to be work, that is for sure.

 

[kim]

I can bring the following

Shovels one long and one short
Rake
Garbage bags
Clippers
Gloves
Chain saw
Axes
Bundle stakes I have some but might need more

Excellent.

 

[Rod McD]

As far as shovels go,everyone should bring one.Lots of shoveling to do!I have a gas powered weed eater and will pick up a brush cutter to go with.Also a mini sledge and a big sledge(I think?somewhere,the wife never puts things back when she's done with them.) and a box of spikes.We will be needing retaining wall material.If we are going to mix concrete will need sand.I have a wheel barrel but no room to haul it(40 issues)I also have a madex(Large pick axe)

 

[kim]

I spoke with Steve this morning and he has arranged for the ministry to drop the outhouse, firering, picnic table and sign at the site on Friday afternoon. Steve and I will go up to receive the stuff at the site on Friday, Aug 21. I'm considering camping there for the weekend with the family as well, from Friday afternoon through Sunday.

Here is the revised list of materials required and who can provide what.

List of stuff to bring for Kenyon;


1. 4 shovels I have 2, Drew 2 more is better!
2. 1 Wrecking bar I have
3. 2 Rakes I have 2
4. 2 wheel barrow I have 1, Rod 1
5. 1 trailer the more the merry
6. 1 sweed saw I have 1
7. 2 clippers, big and small I have both, Drew has 2 as well.
8. 1 tool box, wrenches and ratchets I have
9. bag lag bolts Maybe have
10. bag garbage bags, Drew
11. 4 gloves I have, bringem if you got em
12. 2 cordless drills I have two, 4 batteries
13. 1 Box drillbits I have
14. 1 red robby bits I have
15. 1 chain saw, Drew, more is better
16. bags portland cement I need
17. various forming material I have
18. 1 toolbelt I have
19. 1 bag robby screws, 2 1/2, 3 1/2 I have
20. 1 level I have
21. 1 handsaw I have
22. bag nails, 2 1/2, 3 1/2 I have
23. various trowels I have
24. roll plastic I have
25. various steel for pad I have some rebar
26. 5 5 gallon pails I need
27. 1 screen for fill/gravel I think I have
28. 1 axe I have
29. 2 sledge hammers, big, small I have
30. bundle stakes I need
31. Weed eater/Brush cutter, Rod
Feel free to offer opinions and ideas.

 

[canucksafari]

Are you planning on enlarging the camping area down by the water or will everything go up by the entrance where we fund the culvert in the bush?

 

[kim]

Are you planning on enlarging the camping area down by the water or will everything go up by the entrance where we fund the culvert in the bush?

Outhouse will go where we found the culvert, campsite proper by the lake where it seemed natural, picnic table overlooking the lake, firepit probably in the open where we hung around by the lake.

 

[Enigma]

Are there any specifications/regulations as to the outhouse installation?

 

[kim]

Are there any specifications/regulations as to the outhouse installation?

I have asked that specific question twice and received a no. However, if you have some time, maybe take a look and see if there are any regulations around this and we'll have something reasonable to comply to.