Just wanted to say hi. Recently sold my 21 LC Heritage for a 3rd gen Hybrid Tundra 1794. I had a 21 Tundra Pro that I sold shortly after buying my 21 LC. Do miss having a V8. But I’m loving the new Tundra so far.
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I’ll be honest, the stories of temperature issues, like what you experience with fuel boiling, as well as coolant valley leaks, radiator issues, and generally higher recorded temps while towing/offroading—these are all exactly why I haven’t sold my v8 Tundra.I may be on my way to joining this community as well... I'm towing more these days and made the mistake of hooking up my buddies hybrid 24' Tundra up to my trailer. I've been dealing with some inconsistent, but annoying, fuel boiling issues when I'm towing in the LC so I'm honestly considering making the swap.
Can you share more about why you changed over and your thoughts and uses? Any regrets? We have a LC 250 that we have been using for most of our trips where we aren't towing and I have a pretty clean/stock 80 that I use locally, so the 200 has become mostly a tow vehicle and I'm wondering if it's the best tool for the job given the generous highway speeds, heat, and altitude out here in Utah.
Definitely agree that the previous gen tundra could make a very competent tow rig, but the premiums (especially the later models) they are getting right now is kind of a turn off. I’m not a proponent of “the outgoing model is far superior” kind of guy, and I am generally pretty impressed by the new hybrid setups, so I’ve been looking there a bit more.I’ll be honest, the stories of temperature issues, like what you experience with fuel boiling, as well as coolant valley leaks, radiator issues, and generally higher recorded temps while towing/offroading—these are all exactly why I haven’t sold my v8 Tundra.
I would LOVE to tow in a 3-row SUV to separate the kids out a bit (family of 5 plus a 60-lb dog here), but I can’t bring myself to stick with the 200 as the main towing vehicle due to the previously mentioned reasons.
My truck has the same 3UR-FE, but its cooling system is substantially larger than the 200 series. And it drives much smaller than it is, seems to have fewer coolant valley leaks, almost no radiator issues, and never vents boiling fuel.
That’s what attracted me to the 2nd gen Tundra in general—so much overlap with a 200 series. It’s like a slightly bigger 200 with a bed and a massive backseat. Higher tow rating, similar payload. And it just runs cooler. This seems to be supported by the fact that Tundras and Sequoias in the American market generally last a bit longer than the 200.
I wouldn’t discount a low mileage 2017-2021 Tundra for your needs.
It just depends on your use case. I was so excited for the new Tundra, but to me Toyota went backward in a lot of ways…it’s lower, longer, with less visibility, worse approach angles, smaller inside, and on top of all that, there are still too many engine failures that are occurring after the engine recall window for my comfort.Definitely agree that the previous gen tundra could make a very competent tow rig, but the premiums (especially the later models) they are getting right now is kind of a turn off. I’m not a proponent of “the outgoing model is far superior” kind of guy, and I am generally pretty impressed by the new hybrid setups, so I’ve been looking there a bit more.
I’ve got a dealership looking to swap me nearly 1 for 1 on a new TRD Pro that’s in transit, which is pretty dang tempting.
I think it’s a mixed bag that is polarizing because of the degree of the issue and forums attract folks seeking resolution and a bit of trauma bonding. I’m a great example, I lurk the forums plenty, and for years, but rarely post. No one can convince me that the previous gen tundra is worth 50k w/100k miles and some body damage, which is what I saw at a dealership yesterday.It just depends on your use case. I was so excited for the new Tundra, but to me Toyota went backward in a lot of ways…it’s lower, longer, with less visibility, worse approach angles, smaller inside, and on top of all that, there are still too many engine failures that are occurring after the engine recall window for my comfort.
People aren’t paying premiums for the v8 trucks 4 years into the new one because they have an irrational “muh v8” attachment; the new one has just been kind of a debacle, and the recall issues do not inspire confidence. There are a few 2025 MY failures out there at this point even. Worth reading up on the tundra forum for sure
Agree—tech, comfort, towing power.argue it’s a leap forward in plenty of ways as well
That same dealer probably priced the first 3rd gen TRD Pro they got on their lot at $90k. Dealers closely follow the market’s sentiment and gouge accordingly.No one can convince me that the previous gen tundra is worth 50k w/100k miles and some body damage, which is what I saw at a dealership yesterday.
Yeah I get it. They probably feel great. I loved my 4Runner with the 4.slow. I was bummed when we outgrew it and needed something bigger. What a ridiculously fantastic vehicle.I’ve been around plenty of 4R and the new hybrid/turbo powertrain makes the outgoing 5th gen 4R feel like it’s a stagecoach.
I get it. 200s are great vehicles, but the cooling problems (coolant valley leak, radiator leaks, heater Ts, etc in addition to the fuel boiling) are more common than you’d think.my car is the one that overwhelmingly smells like fuel and requires special treatment.
35s definitely fit without any real modifications; have an sr5 Trd off road on 285/75r18 (about 35.2”). No lift or any sort of chopping etc for clearance. Main issue is spare tire has to be deflated to about 10psi to fit but I have air compressor always with me so not an issue. Stock wheel offset and not 12.5” wide makes it easily done.I love how easy it is to fit big tires on these newer Toyotas, your build sounds like it's going to be pretty slick. I've been reading that the Pro will take a 35 without any modifications, I feel like that would be a solid towing setup, just keep it light and simple with a cover of some sort on the back. The 200 does ok, but the fuel boiling thing really pisses me off enough to where I'm pretty certain I'm going to have to make a change.
Same camp over here... other than the totaled thing in my case I sold the 200 to buy the Tundra. I don't try to wheel the Tundra, I do wheel the GX. I really like the Tundra for road trips, and being able to haul steel/lumber/etc. without hooking up a trailer all the time is awesome, and the main reason I made the switch. No regrets... the 200 was also sweet on road trips but kinda big when actually wheeling, not as fun IMO as the more nimble GX. The only one I regret selling over the years was the 80 series... lol.I too miss the 200 though, wife totaled our lx. Now have gx and tundra.
Good to know! I was at Toyota getting the 200 serviced and they offered me a straight swap on a 2025 1794 with TRD OR package, so I pulled the trigger. I snagged some TRD Pro wheels and I’m hoping to run some 285/75r18 on them if I can pull it off without major effort. Will see some offroading, but mostly forestry/rutted roads towing the offroad trailer. 80 series gets the more dedicated trail use.35s definitely fit without any real modifications; have an sr5 Trd off road on 285/75r18 (about 35.2”). No lift or any sort of chopping etc for clearance. Main issue is spare tire has to be deflated to about 10psi to fit but I have air compressor always with me so not an issue. Stock wheel offset and not 12.5” wide makes it easily done.