Inner Wheel Bearing Oddity

[Cruiser_Nerd]

I was going to post this in the treasure thread, but it's more of an Oddity.

Don't know if anyone else has run across this. The original inner wheel bearing is a press fit on the spindle. When you go to pull the hub it's a little stiff because your pulling out the wheel seal. You have to use a bearing puller (or split it like I did) to get it off.

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Here's the oddity though. It's an all metal wheel seal. It stays stationary on the spindle and the sealing surface is the outside edge with the three oil grooves. Opposite the way a rubber seal works.

All the early wheel bearings and seals work to replace these. But when you reinstall the hub nut presses the inner wheel bearing back on the spindle.

 

[pardion]

Also note in the first photo, the spindle is round on it's outer circumference. 40's are slabbed off on the front, back and bottom. John Pardi

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

This one is flat on the bottom............just hidden in the vise.

 

[foxfab]

The bead blaster is up-n-running. Bring me those parts!

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

More odd stuff...

This is the knuckle seal from the 25. There is only a felt that tucks into the metal retainer, no rubber wiper. Not sure if its the same for real early 40's.

Anyhow, I use the later knuckle seal kit and trim the felt to fit. You can add the rubber wiper under the retainer if you trim it to fit also.

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

New felt cut to fit...

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

OK, don't be whining to me when you go to do your wheel bearings.......

Remember the bit about the inner bearing being press fit? All I can say is if you ever have to do the front bearings, take the FJ25 spindle and chuck it in the woods, and replace it with a FJ40 spindle.

Anyhow, apparently the wheel seal can be installed to deep in the hub (remember that cute all metal seal?), I noticed that on the reassembly the hub had a rubbery feel when turning. The seal was definately being pinched between the bearing and seat. Sooooooooo, after a bunch of cussing I pulled the hub back off. And there it was........ the inner wheel bearing and wheel seal (which was now free) but behind the pressed on bearing.

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Soooo, the decision had to be made, cut off the brand new bearing (still haven't found a puller that will work on this)....

Or figure out a way to reseat the seal.

I took out the spindle bolts and put this handy piece of 3/16" cable behind the seal with a long whip sticking out:

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Reinstall the dust seal and bolts, then press the hub back on (a few taps with a wood block will do) the wire rope acts like a backer and seats the seal to the right depth. Now yank on the whip and pull out the wire rope. Tighten down the bolts and you're right back where you started.

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Ummm, did anyone actually read this and catch the bit about.....


THROW THIS CRAPOLA 25 STUFF AWAY.......FAR, FAR AWAY!!!!!!!!

 

[FJnotCJ]

Ummm, did anyone actually read this and catch the bit about.....


THROW THIS CRAPOLA 25 STUFF AWAY.......FAR, FAR AWAY!!!!!!!!

I keep hinting around it, guess it's time to spell it out...25s are not supposed to run, work, or otherwise function in any way except as an excuse for us to go out to the garage...

"far far away" is Montana, right?

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Montana is just far away. Far, far, away is halfway back to where it came from.

 

[Living in the Past]

I thought it was the back axle that was frozen up. I don't understand why if the wheels stayed on and would roll under force why did you take it apart. My rule is if the wheel stays on and the engine has enough power to turn it then alls good. With the brakes if I feel resistant on the panel and it stops with in a block or two without hitting to many things along the side of the road everything is OK. I think you guys are expecting to much from these vehicles. Next thing I know you guys will complain cause it takes more than a half turn on the steering wheel to make it start turning. You'll just start going on about how half a wheel turn is just too much free play. I think you guys are forgetting it's a Land Cruiser and everytime you drive it it's an adventure even on dry pavement.


John

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Nah, you've got it all wrong John......the back axle was broke and the engine froze........so I'm rebuilding the front end.

And you actually drive yours? Hope that life insurance is paid up.

 

[Living in the Past]

Quote: Cruiser_Nerd And you actually drive yours? Hope that life insurance is paid up.



I'm not the one who has to worry about that, my wife is. That's the way my 68 drove when I got it. I made the mistake of fixing the steering and brakes and now it's no longer a adventure everytime I drive it. I really miss the days when the vehicle wouldn't idle and the brakes pulled to one side. Needed three feet to keep it running. Throw in some snow and ice now that's what I call adventure.


John

 

[foxfab]

As soon as I get my plasma cutter up and running again, we'll see what we can do about that frozen engine. Anyone got a spare F120 if this one isn't salvageable?