How I sunk the 4Runner (1 Viewer)

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Well, it only takes a split second for something to go wrong and to realize you've made a bad decision. In my case, I wasn't using my head and I made a bad judgement call. The good thing however, is that we learn from these mistakes and gain more knowledge of these situations . Luckily, no one was hurt and the runner, after some TLC, is going to make it just fine. On to the story!

We were getting close to the end of the trip and crossing one of the last creek beds. Off to the right was a deeper part of the creek but I made a bad decision of not checking it myself. After edging into the water, my passenger side was angled down further into the water than the driver side. The loose rocks below however kept causing me to slide further down. I was not able to move fast enough so water eventually rushed into the exhaust, clogging the muffler, and killing the air flow, causing the truck to die. After the excruciating fearfulness of seeing my rig take water, the guys hurriedly began the recovery process and pulled me out. After sitting (and draining) for bout 45 min and making sure no water got through the intake we tried starting it up. Coincidentally, the starter was done for. It had recently been on the fritz for a while and happened to die completely. So I was towed back to Lake Winona (about 9 miles) to begin the starter removal process while a couple others went all the way back to my house to get my other starter. BTW, 2" body lift makes for a lot easier removal/installation. After replacing the starter we tried cranking it over and it wouldn't start. Then about an hour and half later of diagnosing and making calls we found that the muffler was still so full of water it wouldn't allow air through. We removed the exhaust, leaving the cat, gave it a couple cranks and finally started. Now it sounds like a s***ty v8 lol.

I'm currently in the drying stages after spending all Sunday morning and early afternoon cleaning and wet vacuuming the carpets. I hope to get most of the the interior back together this evening. Then tomorrow get some exhaust work done, oil change, drain diffs, seafoam, and whatever else. By the end of the week, I hope she's back to normal.


A big thanks to Tim for the photos and to all of you who helped me in this ordeal. An even bigger thanks to Keith for literally jumping in the water no questions asked!



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Nice!! That's some good wheelin there. Glad nothing was hurt in the process.
 
It wasn't a pretty sight. Now you get that new muffler you were talking about.
 
Hi, Looks like more time to clean than damage . Check those cat. Converters and O2 sensors out, they don't like water . Mike
 
Hate it happened Waldo. It was a late night pulling the interior. Let me know when your ready to put it back together. Thanks to everyone that jumped in during the recovery, it could have been worse.
 
Tim-

Glad you decided to move from lurker to member. Post up more pics when you have time. Thanks for leading the pack.
 
Tim-

Glad you decided to move from lurker to member. Post up more pics when you have time. Thanks for leading the pack.

Thanks Jay.
I never take as many photos as I should but......

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A guy we know from the T4R.org forum named Keith jumped in the water. All you guys were a huge help. I owe you all so much!
 
Am i reading that you didn't have to drive through this part as it wasn't part of the trail? It appears you drove through the creek instead of over the gravel and into the shallow on the driver side?

Wasn't there nor am I accusing, however, I have been fighting a jeep club who have been doing illegal crossings and crawling waterfalls of which is totally illegal, tooth and nail and would hate for this to be happening elsewhere.

I also doubt the truck died from back pressure on the exhuast. I've been through ALOT of water and had zero dies and have set well above the exhaust at idle for 5+ minutes. So deep it was touching the bottom of my seats. Tranny/elocker computers were not happy, everything else was good.

Regardless, glad all ended as well as it could.
 
Am i reading that you didn't have to drive through this part as it wasn't part of the trail? It appears you drove through the creek instead of over the gravel and into the shallow on the driver side?

Wasn't there nor am I accusing, however, I have been fighting a jeep club who have been doing illegal crossings and crawling waterfalls of which is totally illegal, tooth and nail and would hate for this to be happening elsewhere.

I also doubt the truck died from back pressure on the exhuast. I've been through ALOT of water and had zero dies and have set well above the exhaust at idle for 5+ minutes. So deep it was touching the bottom of my seats. Tranny/elocker computers were not happy, everything else was good.

Regardless, glad all ended as well as it could.

You would be correct.. The part of the creek I attempted to drive through was indeed something that could have been bypassed all together. It ran right along that gravel path you see in the pictures, then you cross the same creek line but it was much more shallow. However, It is all one trail but seems that side of the trail has been washed out a lot more from weather I'm sure. It's one thing to travel up a creek line where there is no obvious trail/path but this was in fact part of the trail that was impassable at the time and I did not assess the depth of the waters before attempting it, bad on my behalf. It would be no different being at the superlift offroad park and taking a hard line verse a bypass.

With the truck dying, I can't figure out any other reason why It would have died. The passenger side does not have any ecu components. There was no water past the intake silencer and not much water in it to begin with. We had so much problems getting the truck to start until we took the exhaust off. The muffler was packed. Keep in mind this was an aftermarket muffler, too. A 18" Magnaflow to be exact, which im sure is chambered.
 
For reference the rule of the National Forest is to cross in the most direct, least intrusive path.

The exhaust could prevent it from starting but should not kill it. As for the water ingestion, its not uncommon for the temperature inside the intake hose to dry it quickly making it seem as though no water got in. I'll bet that enough moisture hit the maf to kill it.
 
For reference the rule of the National Forest is to cross in the most direct, least intrusive path.

The exhaust could prevent it from starting but should not kill it. As for the water ingestion, its not uncommon for the temperature inside the intake hose to dry it quickly making it seem as though no water got in. I'll bet that enough moisture hit the maf to kill it.

I seriously doubt he did as much damage to the forrest/stream/trail as you and your party did on the trail ride detailed in your 'One of Those Weekends' thread from a few weeks back.....
 
I have no doubt.

Mine turned into a complete clusterduck that should have never, ever happened. It was on trail and the shortest path across. Trust me, I wish I could turn time backwards on that one.

Given the hours I've spent on the phone with the NF begging to keep access open I'm just trying to educate people for future outings.
 
I do appreciate what you're doing. Without people like you willing to fight to keep our trails open we wouldn't have access to a lot of them. We've all done some stuff we weren't proud of or regretted and paid the price in some way or another. There are lessons learned here. Misjudging and/or inadequate skills is one thing, but being purposely care/reckless is another and should not be tolerated.
 
Rear diff fluid.. What it looked like when I changed it Monday. I changed it again yesterday. Looked a lot better lol.

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