HAMOM Quality Control

[mtweller]

Hey Folks,

Just a quick heads up regarding HAMOMs. Ultimately, it is the owners' responsibility for QC on any HAMOM, and apparently I dropped the ball when we rebuilt the front axle on Emma's 80. I had noticed some roar recently and had assumed it was lack of tire rotation, since the front bearings probably only have 15k on them. Well today, I found that was NOT the case.

Both front hubs were extremely loose. So I tore into both sides and found neither of the star washers were bent into locking position on either side. The adjusting and locking nuts had come less than finger tight and there was a LOT of play. I tightened all down, bent the washers properly (adjusting nut and locking nut) and we're good to go.

I only mention this because I got in a hurry that day, trying to get the work finished and worry about finishing up the bbq that was in the oven. I take complete and total responsibility for this oversight, but want to warn everyone that we need to make sure we have some safety checks in place going forward.

R

 

[krzyabncanuck]

Good info.

That is why i will not rush a job for anyone out there. Even a HAMON. Too many lives on the line.

And if you pay attention to my website, most of the trucks that come in for other things i check the front end and most of those tabs are not proplerly done.

 

[custyota]

I agree....

Safety is very important! Sorry that this happened to you. Any ideas on having a qc person or check list? This is one of the things that I want Darin to do for me. A final safety and qc check.


So are you telling me after having johnny, mike and ryan working on my brakes i should be concearned?

 

[96Cruiser13]

HJAHA, YOUR BRAKES ARE EXCELLENT. aND IM SPEAKING FOR JOHNNY, SINCE HE WAS THEW ONE TO PUT THE LINES ON...

 

[Mtbcoach]

I say...Well done Ramon. Most would assume that it couldn't be the bearings since they were just done. Then, they'd look all over everything else, jump to the wrong conclusion and chase the problem all over the rig.

Glad it turned out to be relatively simple since you followed the logical troubleshooting path. Good advise, good example how to solve any problems discovered after the fact...

 

[Burt88]

Meatball, I didn't really do too much on anyones vehicle but my own. I just toss an anchor out the window to stop.
Perhaps during future HAMOMs we can create check lists that can be used for common repairs. It could lead to a repair manual written and published by our club.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Meatball, I didn't really do too much on anyones vehicle but my own. I just toss an anchor out the window to stop.
Perhaps during future HAMOMs we can create check lists that can be used for common repairs. It could lead to a repair manual written and published by our club.

That is not a bad idea man, I like it. We could include 'gotchas' for working on each generation of LC. We could make a hell of a manual, collecting all of our knowledge together. But even then, it still wouldn't be as good as the FSM

Meatball, your brake lines are perfect. You had at least 5 drunks check them and three drive it around the block. You're good for a Moab trip my friend

Ramon, glad to hear you got it all fixed up! I'm surprised that they lasted 15k before loosening up!!

 

[custyota]

That ride around the hood was pretty fun until we realized we were running out of gas!

Cowboy butts has a good idea. The club can make our own tech pubs!

 

[96Cruiser13]

Midget porn boy has nothing to worry about, all he did was drink and watch. If the manifolds fall off, blame me...

 

[PhrogsPhorever]

So are you telling me after having johnny, mike and ryan working on my brakes i should be concearned?

They are trying to bump you off so they can part out your 40 while it's at Darin's

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[custyota]

After the day im having u guys can have the 40 the guns and the business.

 

[Burt88]

Good, cause i already have the 40.

 

[krzyabncanuck]

Guess i am having one of those days today now. Thanks there Meatball.

 

[alk747triodad]

Guess i am having one of those days today now. Thanks there Meatball.

Darin, would you like some cheese with that whine?

 

[mtweller]

Boy - you guys sure know how to go off-topic

I like the checklist idea.

R

 

[GarnerFJ40]

That ride around the hood was pretty fun until we realized we were running out of gas!

Cowboy butts has a good idea. The club can make our own tech pubs!

Is this the start of another nickname?

 

[custyota]

Oh mikes name is cowboybutts!

Or were u talking about a new name for me?

We are so off topic

 

[lt1fire]

Good info Ramon.... as you pointed out ultimate responsibility at a HAMOM as to the quality of work comes down to the owner of the vehicle. I would say that for every job a check list is made for the owner (if they can't do it themselves) and when a member gets to a point where safety is concerned, such as the locking washers, then the owner watches or asks if it was done and then signs off on it.

 

[custyota]

I think check list are a good idea. Can Someone with some mechanical skills and who knows what they are talking about make them? What are the most common hamoms on? Brakes? Front axle rebuild?

Just some thoughts

 

[GarnerFJ40]

So being a Quality Assurance employee in a FDA regulated environment, a checklist is a good thing, as long as you do it.

I'll pose a question.

When was the last time we used the safety checklists at trail rides?