What are you guys finding is the best setup for getting some travel out your IFS rigs?
Front IFS Flex? (1 Viewer)
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rusty_tlc
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What kind of rig?
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Mine is a 07' Tacoma. I know there are some FJ Cruisers on here. I don't know if that would be similar.
Long arm kit or SAS
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I figured that was coming, I guess I should have been more specific. My truck has a 3" lift that was installed by the previous owner. The spacer is between spring and the top of the factory Bilstein shock. I am wondering if I went to a different spring/shock setup if it would be a better way to go? Also are any of the IFS rigs running without the front swaybar?
After the front ASB mount bracket on my '99 LC broke in the middle of a Utah trip I ran without it for the remainder of the trails including Hole In The Rock, etc., and then highway back to Reno.
Off-road was lovely...mobetta front suspension action. On-road was a PITA. I've thought at length about a disconnect but just too many limitations...unless I custo a front ASB.
Ok...aside from probably an extra 1" of travel being limited by the stock shocks there's just not much to be gained, with regard to additional and significant travel, with Toyota IFS without going wider front U/LCA and CV's. Then you've got wider turning radius...so pick your poison.
If money flowed like water I'd SAS my 100 and be done with it.
Off-road was lovely...mobetta front suspension action. On-road was a PITA. I've thought at length about a disconnect but just too many limitations...unless I custo a front ASB.
Ok...aside from probably an extra 1" of travel being limited by the stock shocks there's just not much to be gained, with regard to additional and significant travel, with Toyota IFS without going wider front U/LCA and CV's. Then you've got wider turning radius...so pick your poison.
If money flowed like water I'd SAS my 100 and be done with it.
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I am not looking for a ton. I was just looking at the above picture and noticed that the front tire doesn't look like it has moved at all. I was thinking that the spacer has possibly stiffened the suspension. I was wondering if a different spring (like an OME) might work better.
Thanks
gregnash
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Think there was an article in this months edition of 4WD Toyota Owner magazine about a new lift setup from ICON that is supposed to add a good amount of travel but replaces all components.
I'm not familiar with how the Taco/FJC/4R is bump stopped. I surmise they probably limited travel to protect, namely, the upper ball joint...just like my LC. You could remove the spring/shock/strut...then cycle the suspension to see what if anything can be gained by adjusting/fabbing different bump stops while not binding up the ball joint(s).
^^Pretty typical of IFS rigs, the rear does most of the flexing. I think that while it's not impressive, it typically gets the job done on the majority of back country travel. Rockcrawling is a different story, but I don't think you are taking your taco over the rubicon anytime soon.
Jack
Jack
Yeah...you get a little extra travel in exchange for $$. And you end up with uni-crap-balls to boot. Been there done that.
Since uni-balls, aka their real name spherical bearings, came up
...only in the 4x4 world do folks buy off on having a bearing exposed to the elements...Gotta love those marketing/hype departments at Total Chaos, Icon, etc.
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Correct, I am not looking to do any crazy stuff rock crawling with this rig. I just want it to be a capable off road truck for a majority of the Nevada stuff.
I just subscribed to the magazine. I think I will have to back order that issue. Thanks for the help. I will try and make the meeting tomorrow. Maybe I can get some more information there.
FWIW, they sell toy owners mag at Barnes and Nobel.
My dd is a Tacoma and its done two tours through Death Valley and done VERY WELL. I have a leveler kit on mine and its stock other than that. Prior to my first trip, I was considering selling it and getting some thing "more capable". It just rides so much like a car that I thought there's no way its gonna be a decent wheeler.... After that first run... I ate my words.
No, its not a crawler, but it'll amaze you for sure w what it can do. The factory low gears alone blew me away. You actually have engine brake w an automatic.
The bumps are pretty much all the way down to the a arms.
Jack always referred to IFS as having the flex of a shopping cart... I'd have to agree w/ that. 
Espresso has run the gamut w/ IFS!!
These two are gonna be the BEST resources on the topic.
Like espresso said though... If I could.. I'd do a SAS!!
Espresso has run the gamut w/ IFS!!
These two are gonna be the BEST resources on the topic.
Like espresso said though... If I could.. I'd do a SAS!!
rusty_tlc
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What I notice from the picture is that both front tires are on the ground and the rear driver tire is in the air.
Chicago makes a good point; Toyotas are incredibly capable from the factory. The first few trips I did in my UZJ100 it was bone stock down to the OEM tires. We traveled Death Valley and a few hundred miles of Nevada back roads before I did anything with it. Today it has a mild lift, diff drop, sliders and a step up from factory tires.
Is it as capable as Spresso's 100? No.
Does it do what I want? With out hesitation yes.
Bottom line is what do you want from your truck and how much are you willing to spend to get there? If your like me for as often as you need more flex just stack a few rocks and spend the lift money on gas to go more places.
Chicago makes a good point; Toyotas are incredibly capable from the factory. The first few trips I did in my UZJ100 it was bone stock down to the OEM tires. We traveled Death Valley and a few hundred miles of Nevada back roads before I did anything with it. Today it has a mild lift, diff drop, sliders and a step up from factory tires.
Is it as capable as Spresso's 100? No.
Does it do what I want? With out hesitation yes.
Bottom line is what do you want from your truck and how much are you willing to spend to get there? If your like me for as often as you need more flex just stack a few rocks and spend the lift money on gas to go more places.
I have been all over the west coast in my truck that shouldn't be able to do it.
Here is a shot of it going over Mengel Pass in DV.
I think you will find that once you load the bed up with your gear, it will force a more even balance of flex between the front and rear. The rear will still account for the majority, but it will help somewhat with the front staying level like in your picture.
Jack
Here is a shot of it going over Mengel Pass in DV.
I think you will find that once you load the bed up with your gear, it will force a more even balance of flex between the front and rear. The rear will still account for the majority, but it will help somewhat with the front staying level like in your picture.
Jack