Front brake disk replacement

[Mike6158]

I drove out to Big Bend earlier this week. It's about a 10 hour drive and everything went fine until the first full day. It looks like the PO used pads that were glued on instead of riveted. The left front shed it's pads. The pads were fine when I last checked them. Anyway, I figured the hub was going to be fubar after the 600 mile trip home anyway so I stayed in the park and curtailed some of my plans. I did my best to keep breaking to a minimum but sometimes it's necessary to stop. So... the left front hub is fubar. I might be able to have the rotors turned but I have never been a fan of doing that and the rotor is pretty well grooved hence the replacement.

So... is there anything I need to look out for when I change the hubs? I'm going to assume that Toyota built good front suspension / breaking parts and stick with factory items unless there is a compelling argument for using aftermarket parts.

I have a long list of work to do while the LC is down.

I'll probably change both front hubs, pads (obviously), I may replace the wheel cylinders, and wheel speed sensors will definitely be changed. Bearings and seals will be changed. I have a set of axles for the front so I'll install those. I have the parts and I need to change the rack and pinion as well as the bushings. I suppose I had better check out the rear breaks too while it's down.

This is going to dent my lift kit and rear bumper fund

 

[hankinid]

I drove out to Big Bend earlier this week. It's about a 10 hour drive and everything went fine until the first full day. ...


So... is there anything I need to look out for when I change the hubs? I'm going to assume that Toyota built good front suspension / breaking parts and stick with factory items unless there is a compelling argument for using aftermarket parts.

This is going to dent my lift kit and rear bumper fund

The Big Bend is some of the most spectacular scenery I've seen.

I like oem rotors but I prefer metallic pads. They do need a bit of a warm-up for maximum grab, but to me they stop better than oem pads.

As to the "dent" in lift and back bumper fund, I know exactly how you feel. My "dent" is a vet bill for a mare that foaled this Monday a little past midnight.

 

[uHu]

Why would you change the hubs and other related parts when it sounds like you need only new rotors and pads? The hub and sensor normally lasts the lifetime of the truck. And the bearing too, if not run dry, it needs only repack and adjustment. The only parts I would change if replacing rotors and shafts, are the hub seals and spindle seals, and check the spindle bearings.

 

[Mike6158]

The Big Bend is some of the most spectacular scenery I've seen.

I like oem rotors but I prefer metallic pads. They do need a bit of a warm-up for maximum grab, but to me they stop better than oem pads.

As to the "dent" in lift and back bumper fund, I know exactly how you feel. My "dent" is a vet bill for a mare that foaled this Monday a little past midnight.

I spend as much time as I can in the Big Bend of the Rio Grande. It was a tad crowded in the park this go around. I generally prefer to visit June - September. It's much less crowded. I have the front desk for the lodge in the Basin in my phone

Ahhh horses... my daughters mare is in my pasture enjoy the nice growth of spring grass. She's suppose to drop in about a month. Her other two are close to where her boyfriend and she live now and I suspect "the black" (my grandson named her that, because she's black. 5 year olds keep things simple )and her new baby will move as soon as it's safe for them to travel.

Why would you change the hubs and other related parts when it sounds like you need only new rotors and pads? The hub and sensor normally lasts the lifetime of the truck. And the bearing too, if not run dry, it needs only repack and adjustment. The only parts I would change if replacing rotors and shafts, are the hub seals and spindle seals, and check the spindle bearings.

The sensors will be replaced because I know I have a sensor problem. For instance, if I change lanes from left to right and the vehicle is going downhill, the cruise control kicks off and every now and then the traction control light and warning come on. Nothing happens when going from right to left. The same thing happens in a right hand curve. In the winter or on wet roads the traction control system will occasionally lock up the left front wheel (sometimes the right too).

I didn't realize the hub and rotor were separate. That... is outstanding news.

Calipers... I'm on the fence about those. In the "good old days" calipers were rebuilt or replaced once the vehicle mileage was 150k or higher, if they made it that high. Once I started earning enough money to afford new, I never rebuilt calipers or wheel cylinders. Replacement was cheap insurance. You haven't truly lived unless you've honed a wheel cylinder (kidding of course).

If the calipers are typical of Toyota quality I won't replace those either.

Replacing hub seals, spindle seals, and repacking bearings is on the list of things to do

 

[hankinid]

I spend as much time as I can in the Big Bend of the Rio Grande. It was a tad crowded in the park this go around. I generally prefer to visit June - September. It's much less crowded. I have the front desk for the lodge in the Basin in my phone

Ahhh horses... my daughters mare is in my pasture enjoy the nice growth of spring grass. She's suppose to drop in about a month. Her other two are close to where her boyfriend and she live now and I suspect "the black" (my grandson named her that, because she's black. 5 year olds keep things simple )and her new baby will move as soon as it's safe for them to travel.

I didn't realize the hub and rotor were separate. That... is outstanding news.

The colt arrived back home Thursday afternoon. Vet is ~ 15 miles away, we took it slow and comfortable. 2 days later, colt discovered he has a high center of gravity a few times... Not an expert, but you might want to wait a month or 2. A good question for your vet.

There's a relatively famous lady who hosts a roundup in the Big Bend once or twice a year. has done that twice and had a ball. Prior to drug cartel and friendly undocumented visitors, and I rode into Mexico and stayed in a hacienda in Copper Canyon, Mexico. Crossed the river in a johnboat in Lajitas, TX. Loaded the horses and rode and relaxed for a week.

Add a match head or 2 of Never-Seize to the hub threads that will be in contact with the rotor, and put some around the center hole in the rotor. No hammers needed if you need to remove rotor in the future. Don't forget your spindle bearings.

Steve

 

[pkelly72]

The Big Bend is some of the most spectacular scenery I've seen.

I like oem rotors but I prefer metallic pads. They do need a bit of a warm-up for maximum grab, but to me they stop better than oem pads.

As to the "dent" in lift and back bumper fund, I know exactly how you feel. My "dent" is a vet bill for a mare that foaled this Monday a little past midnight.

Which brand metallic pads?

 

[hankinid]

Which brand metallic pads?

StopTech Street Performance Brake Pads

hth

Steve

 

[Mike6158]

Unfortunately I think that freely crossing the border days are gone.

Are glued on pads the norm these days? When I had my 69 Camaro (early 80's) I could get riveted pads. Short of running them down to the rivets they never failed.