Finally going wheeling - anyone else?

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So I finally have had enough and am going wheeling starting Thursday. So far Robert has expressed interest (Flycruiser). It is very much weather dependent as to the location. Robert will likely be heading back Saturday or Sunday I am planning on continuing on until Wed./Thur. So far 1 possible area is Whipsaw but I could always use a suggestion and if anyone is interested to join in the fun. Sopel also mentioned he might tag along.
My idea so far is to do a handful of trails in areas that don't have too much snow yet and occasionally popping into a town for food or a shower.
 
Sounds like a holiday! I know Whipsaw already has lots of snow, you might be able to get into Wells but you have to carefull, you go to sleep one night and the next morning your buried under a foot (or more) of snow and won't be going anywhere until spring.
GG
 
Take a set of chains with you and a couple feet of snow is nothing. Whipsaw is but one area to wheel in. From Princeton (home town) you can also do Copper Mountain over to the Red Bluffs and then back down to Hwy 3 near Stem Winder. You have from Hedly the back route up and over the mountian to Apex and then down into Penticton. Run down the valley to Oliver and there is another route over the mountains from there to Cawston. To the north of Princeton (hwy 5a) you have many trails off of Pike Mountain to the West and then up Elephant mountain with the Power Line and Gas Line trails to the East. If you like fishing, there are some good fishing lakes on either side.
Let me know if you want more info.
John
 
Thanks for the suggestions. Steve was up at Whipsaw last weekend and said the snow was not that bad yet but I know how quickly things change in the mountains. Speaking of chains, any idea where I can get a decent set for 33X12.5 tires?
Hopefully the weather is not going to get nasty.
 
Mat, I remember this was posted last winter on BC4X4. So went back and found it. It seems that Midway wins hands down in terms of quality and service:
midway tire and chain on 72 in surrey
Midway Tire in Port Kells on 195th Street
midway's chain warehouseon 132nd st in the 7800 block

I sure wish I had chains on just two of my tires today.

John

PS: Here's the web page link http://www.midwaytire.com/midwayChain/midwayChain.htm
 
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Take a set of chains with you and a couple feet of snow is nothing. Whipsaw is but one area to wheel in. From Princeton (home town) you can also do Copper Mountain over to the Red Bluffs and then back down to Hwy 3 near Stem Winder. You have from Hedly the back route up and over the mountian to Apex and then down into Penticton. Run down the valley to Oliver and there is another route over the mountains from there to Cawston. To the north of Princeton (hwy 5a) you have many trails off of Pike Mountain to the West and then up Elephant mountain with the Power Line and Gas Line trails to the East. If you like fishing, there are some good fishing lakes on either side.
Let me know if you want more info.
John

These sound like great runs for the summer let alone the winter. Let us know how you make out with the chains.
GG
 
John, I did the trip across the Apex mountain last year, went from Penticton, on Apex Mountain Rd. then down the Hedley/Nickel Plate FSR only after playing on the snowmobile trails for a couple of hours. I am not sure how you can get from Hedley, through Apex to Cawston, there is Hwy 3a in the way, other then enjoying the lookout on Apex there is no advantage to taking that route from what I can see. Were you talking about coming down by the Twin Lakes, to Orofino Mtn? there is another nice look out a bit South of there at Kobau Mtn but I have not been there in ages and don't know if it is even remotely challenging. I was unable to find Pike mtn or Elephant mtn. do you have a bit more info on that trail?
 
It has been a number of years since I have been on many of these trails around Princeton. Every time I am up there I am always fixing things for my mom. so these are just ideas for you to investigate. A good source of up-to-date infomation is the Sports store in Princeton - just down the street from the Bus Depot.

To do the road from Oliver to Cawston, you need to drive to Oliver on 97. If the road is being upkept, then it is an easy drive in a 2 wheeler. If it hasn't been cared for, then it could be fun. In the area is also the road from the Ashanola over the top to Friday Creek (near Placer off of hwy 3). I haven't done this road but have heard that it is an interesting run. This time of year it could be challenging with the snow. It is not a place you want ot go without letting people know where you are with a time for when you will check in on getting back. Of course, a VHF is nice also. I don't think you will see any traffic over the top.

As for Elephant and Pike Mountain, they should both be on the maps. Both are access from hwy 5A. Elephant mountain is first accessed from the road to the east of the second bridge heading North. You then run the top of the mountain and can come out near Summit Lake. You can only stay on the gas line road until you hit Stringer Lake. From there it just goes strait down a grade that only a CAT laying line would go down. You can go down or up from Allison lake on the Stringer lake road which rises on a loose shale and gravel switch back road from the South end of Allison lake. It has a tendency to wash out and may or may not be passible. Just before Stringer the power line heads to the East a bit. Besides mud holes, there is only one obstacles - a short steep rock face. Just past Power Lakes to the righ hand side is a 15 minute hike in lake - Butler Lake. There use to be a plywood boat hidden in the bush. You really need a boat to fish it. A bit further North a road goes into the East to Secret (AKA Mystery) lake. From the tree line towards the lake you will find white clay. Any amount of wetness and you will soon be up to your axles. Usually you get just far enough in to be just out of reach of the trees. The Power Line Road meets up with a road coming up summit.

Google satellite map of "Princeton BC" is a decent resource. To the South it is a definition pic but to the North it is only good enough to pick out the main roads.

The GPS map on Sharhooks will give you an idea of some of the trails off of hwy 5a and Princeton:http://www.sharphooks.com/search.aspx?subpage=hotelinfo&hotelid=8027. The roads look more or less correct but some of the names are wrong and or are missing. You best bet is a real forestry map. BTW, the run up to Rampart use to be a challenging trip. Now you can go all the way over to the Chain / Link lake valley. On Sharp hooks map you can see all the main Pike mountain roads. This mountain can be very confusing, as there are many more logging roads and skidder trails not mapped.

I could go on and on, but this post is already way too long. If you got Qs just ask. Wish I could go too.

John
 
So pretty much all packed up and itching to hit the road, we'll be leaving Thursday before 12, maybe even around 10. So far the plan is to head up Pike mountain instead of Whipsaw, and up to the lakes there. We will likely hit the whipsaw depending on the weather but are not sure yet. Robert is coming back on Saturday, I'll use that as an excuse to head back into a town and get more supplies. Sopel said he is not joining us for sure but there is a possibility that Pawel might join in his 80 after Saturday. If not then I have some solo wheeling.
Picked up the chains today, Very nice!!! that's what I call real chains, also picked up some spider thingys that tighten the outside of the chains for $10/pair. I heard that at the off-road expo someone was selling them for $25 each.
I will be checking my phone every-now and then so if anyone has a chance to get away leave me a message if you want to meet up.
604-803-3506
I'll try not to drown the truck anywhere.
 
Mat I am heading up to Summerland tomorrow around the same time, so might see you on the Hwy 3. My trip is for work and then just back in Princeton for the morning on Friday to do some stuff for my mom. Then back to Abby to wheel the kids around for soccer. Hope you have a good time. BTW, most of the lakes up on Pike Mountain are mud bottom and will swallow your truck whole just in case you get any ideas. The Hells Angels have a get-away club house up by McDermid Lake but probably won't be of much help to pull you out of any lakes.:D
 
sounds like a fun trip. If I move south next year for sure I will head on lots of trips... :)

Up in Smithers with only the wifes cruiser I am some what limited....man I'd like to head out exploring...

I made the mistake of taking my wifes ride thru the worst over growth I have seen to date. Inch plus diameter limbs/branches.....

I even cut polished but it isn't the same. I think with a little more polish I will have her ride back to normal. Lucky for me it is beige in colour.
 
Saw the boys in Princeton while they were fueling up. I was on my way through to do a workshop in Summerland. We had lunch together at the bus depot before they took off to play and I took off to work. :mad: Mat looked like he was packed for a 6 month expedition. One of the old guys in town wandered up to our table to ask about those funny looking pipes running up along the front window. So, Mat was obliged to recount how well they worked for him in the water.;) I suspect he will stay out of the water this time and be looking for some snow to try out his four brand new V bar chains on. Their trip report should be interesting.
 
I have returned, I will likely do a full write up tomorrow or even tonight if I can't sleep. All I will say for now is that it was not boring and plans never work out the way you want them to......
...no vehicles were drown during the making of this trip.
 
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