Engine Noise problem after timing belt and serpentine belt change

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Changed the timing belt with the Aisin kit, the serpentine belt with the Gates kit all went pretty smoothly. For the first 5 minutes of running all went fine. Then I got this.
It is the serpentine tensioner pulley "jumping" that's making the sound. I removed the belt spun all the pulleys and everything spins just fine. AI says it may be the harmonic balancer, any thoughts?

First 5 minutes all sounds fine.


Then...
 
Does not sound good at all. If that were my rig I'll start the process of opening it back up and re-check all of the work, with careful attention to checking for loose bolts along the way.
 
The good news from my perspective? It sounds external to me. Maybe something slapping the TB cover? Pull the cam covers and maybe see something fairly straight forward....TB tensioner issue? Maybe didn't pull the pin? Man, I wish you luck...
 
...the scenario: The VVTi cam tension was enough to pull tension on the belt, but after running for a while, the belt slipped teeth and put a bulge of slack on one side that's slapping the cover. Just an idea.
 
With another snow storm coming this weekend I'm going to take it all apart again and redo. It was definitely the serpentine belt tensioner. Making the pop.
 
With another snow storm coming this weekend I'm going to take it all apart again and redo. It was definitely the serpentine belt tensioner. Making the pop.
Hello 2dub,
What was the resolution?
I hope it's all good.

Every time I do a timing belt / water pump job, I do the following test prior to removing the serpentine belt tensioner.

Drive Belt Tensioner Test
- The Bolt on the Serpentine Belt Tensioner Pulley is Reverse Thread. So to Check the Tension on the Pulley, you turn it Counterclockwise (i.e. Like you are Loosening a “Normal” Bolt).
- Using a Torque Wrench with a 14mm Socket, check to see how many Ft Lbs it takes to Release the Tension on the Tensioner. It should take approximately 22 Ft Lbs.
- I Start at 10 Ft Lbs on the Torque Wrench, and the Torque Wrench should Click before the Tensioner Moves. Then I work my way up in 2 Ft Lbs increments.
- The Torque Wrench should Click before the Tensioner Moves until you get to at least 20 Ft Lbs.
- If the Tensioner Moves before the Torque Wrench Clicks prior to setting the Torque Wrench to 20 Ft Lbs, the Tensioner has Failed the Test.

I only use Toyota Parts from my local Toyota Dealer.
So, if I install a New Serpentine Belt Tensioner, I don't test it.
I assume Toyota has good quality control :)

I would suggest to anyone installing a New Aftermarket Serpentine Belt Tensioner to use the Test procedure above to make sure it's applying the correct tension.

Happy Wrenching!
Tom
 
With another snow storm coming this weekend I'm going to take it all apart again and redo. It was definitely the serpentine belt tensioner. Making the pop.
Wondering what your problem was, I don't see how the serp belt tensioner could possibly make that noise.... Will be very easy to diagnose, just remove the serpentine belt and start the motor. If the noise goes away, its related to accessories / accessory belt . If the noise doesn't go away, then you have a timing belt related problem
 
So I tried for almost 3 months to fix it myself... Some Google-Fu lead me to it was the harmonic balancer. So I ordered another from RA. I also got an OEM Harmonic Balancer bolt from Toyota since the 3 jaw puller was gouging out the inside of the bolt.

It was a little difficult getting off the first time, it SEEMED to go back on easily enough. But damn if I couldn't get it off the second time. I snapped the harmonic balancer puller bolt off in it, then later broke a 3 jaw puller, so I finally tapped out and had it towed to a local shop I'd never been to before. --- They had a really cool 80 series they were working on when I got there.

Apparently, I basically created my own key hole in the harmonic balancer. But they got it off and had me going again the next day.

I was so embarrassed, about something so simple. I was sure I slid it on correctly and the belts lined up just fine. I did the hard part right, but the stupidest thing threw me off. But even after towing and having them fix it I saved a lot vs getting it done and I learned some too.

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