Electrical Wierdness....

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MrMoMo

That's not rust, it's Canadian patina...
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Well, everything so far has been normal - other than my nice "CD player" noise which hopefully only Brownbear knows about....

Today I had the '84 BJ60 Oil sprayed (By Rust Check)

When I picked it up all seemed fine, but on the drive home I noticed that my volt meter was a little on the low side - which when I first start up is normal - but it usually rests around 13V after a few minutes of driving. Today it seemed to be around 11V, and after quite a while of driving it got up to around 12V. I replaced both batteries with 27 series (900CCA) and they seem to be doing nicely.

After 35 minutes of driving to get home, I was still only around 12V. I got out my volt meter and at idle I had 12.16V at the battery, and the same at the B post on the alternator (this seems low to me). I would like to check voltage at the "F" post but I can't locate it on this alternator (where the "F" is it?). Now. Thinking down that road, the voltage DOES rise as I rev the engine up, and then fall again as I let off. (however, not all that high -maybe 12.5V) -does this indicate a bad voltage regulator?

On to the next wierdness. Turn signals/brake lights. The standard brakelights come on with turn signals etc... so I read up here and go out to clean the bulbs/sockets and check the grounds. Bulb sockets checked out perfectly clean, no corrosion at all. Same with the bulbs. Now, when I got the truck I noticed two wires, coming from the tail light area, into the tailgate area, with ring connectors (doesn't look stock). They were not connected and everything worked fine. Just for giggles, I decided to hook one of them up - guess what. Everything is fine now (lighting wise) Just for clarity, these are not the wires that ground the tailgate to the body, but they are using the same screws (now). Can anyone think of ANY reason why this would have been done and then UN-done??

The other change that seemed to happen was with my glow system, it used to be that the "glow" light - which I know is really just a useless light - would come on for 3 seconds or so. I would watch the volt meter and listen for the relay to "click", then I would start. It probably took about 10 seconds for the "click" Now the "glow" light just barely comes on by the time it goes out, and the relay is taking about 20 seconds to "click"... FWIW, it is about 10°C WARMER today than the past few days.

What sense does this make?

Is there any way that the rust proofing oil could be doing this or is it all total coincidence???
 
have a good look around the batterys. Ensure the posts are tight and connections clean. Also have good look at the ground wires on the battery.

Maybe they bumped something with the wands.

Could be co-incidence with the volts. Maybe the alt regulator and brushes are failing.

The glowplugs will only just flash on in warmer temps. The light isn;t useless, it tells you the primary glowplug relay is on(but not if it fails) so you don't crank when the large draw is happening. Then after the light goes out the secondary glowplug relay energizes and will stay on for awhile longer. But the draw is less and it is meant to help the engine idle better.

I say if you have trouble starting to look at the Wilson switch mod.

As always check all your fuses.

Your alternator should be internally regulated, my 84 is. But to be sure look where the air filter mounts. If the alternator is externally regulated the regulator resides between the airfilter mounts.
 
When I picked it up all seemed fine, but on the drive home I noticed that my volt meter was a little on the low side - which when I first start up is normal - but it usually rests around 13V after a few minutes of driving. Today it seemed to be around 11V, and after quite a while of driving it got up to around 12V. I replaced both batteries with 27 series (900CCA) and they seem to be doing nicely.

All the cruisers I own or have driven,the alternator starts charging to full power immediately.
Maybe they sprayed some of the anti rust solution into the alternator.
 
All the cruisers I own or have driven,the alternator starts charging to full power immediately.
Maybe they sprayed some of the anti rust solution into the alternator.

That is what I was wondering.. being anti-corrosion, it should be resistive to electrical current flow -otherwise it could serve as an electrolyte to improve galvanic corrosion. If they managed to get it on the armature of the alternator, that would give resistance between the armature and the brushes and could limit the output??
 
OK, I just amp-clamped my battery leads and found that I am drawing 2A on the white wire coming of my main battery.. with the truck ignition OFF. - what is the white wire & where should I start tracing it inside?

Thanks.
 
Update...

Clamped my alternator wire and there is no draw there... kept clamping around on wires and found that this is either drawing one amp, or has one amp passing through it. What is this? it is mounted on the drivers side fender below what I believe are the glow plug and starter relays...

I tried removing the wire I connected to make my tail lights work, but that had no effect on the 2A load.

Having a great day today. It's about -15°C. Trying to figure this out in the cold. Battery was almost totally flat after work - just barely got it started on the 3rd try. Then decided to stop for diesel on the way home. Key for the fuel door was frozen and I absolutely could not get it open. Exiting the highway I felt my brakes fading... got home to find that I blew one of the lines that goes to the rear -not an easy one to change of course...

(repeat in head "I love LandCruisers...I love LandCruisers...I love LandCruisers...I love LandCruisers...I love LandCruisers...I love LandCruisers...")

THIS SUCKS!!
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The round one is the primary glow, one of the square ones is the secondary.

Disconnect the relays till you get 0 on the clamp on meter. Also you could pull fuses till you hit 0 on the meter.

Keep the faith. If you get frustrated just take it to a shop for analizing. Could still be an alt problem.


Oh also, With this draw going on, take your multimeter and put it on one glowplug and to ground. Check for voltage. Maybe a relay isn't disengaging fully. That may explain the slight draw.
 
Think a hammer smack would do anything to it (un-stick it?)
 
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