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I bought a 94 FZJ80 in December and I've taken and failed 3 emissions tests in Colorado due to high NOx. I think I've narrowed it down to a faulty VSV, but I would appreciate some input before I spend the $$$. I've attached the charts from the 3 tests.

I took my truck in to test in mid-morning, and took mostly surface streets for about 6 miles to get there. I sat in line for 30 minutes with the truck idling before I tested, so everything was relatively cool in temp.

Test 1 Results in GPM: (reading/limit)
HC: .44/2.0
CO: 4.19/20.0
CO2: 326.18
NOx: 5.06/4.0

After I failed the first time, I did the following (some related to emissions, some not): cleaned IAC, cleaned PCV, intake cleaner in PCV port, cleaned EGR modulator filter, removed and cleaned EGR valve & temp sensor and reinstalled with new gaskets, replaced K&M air filter with new OEM air filter.

Following the advice of some on this forum, I got the engine/cats running super hot before I tested. I was only waiting in line for about 5 minutes. Inflated tires to 40 PSI.

Test 2 Results:
HC: .69/2.0
CO: 10.08/20.0
CO2: 671.39
NOx: 13.15/4

NOx readings almost tripled??? Since getting things super hot sent me the wrong way, I drove my truck easy on the way to the third test, and sat in line with the truck turned off for about 20 minutes while waiting in line. I also put 1/2 tank of premium with a red bottle of HEET. Replaced K&M air filter with new OEM air filter a week or so before the test.

Test 3 Results:
HC: .80/2.0
CO: 10.13/20.0
CO2: 721.22
NOx: 14.27/4

After my most recent fail, I figured that I'm missing something. Today, I decided to check the VSV to make sure it's working properly. I followed this and this thread in order to not have to remove the intake chamber as called for by the FSM. Otherwise, I followed the FSM.

I measured 32 ohms between the bottom 2 terminals on the left side, so all good there.

I disconnected the vacuum hoses leading in/put of the VSV and was able to blow through it, although it wasn't "easy." I then applied 12V to the bottom 2 terminals on the left side and was still able to blow through with the same resistance. I also didn't hear a click when giving it power, but I've read that it isn't always audible. FSM says to replace the VSV if this happens.

Thus, I think I need to replace the VSV. But before I buy it and replace, I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Here is what's been puzzling me:

  • While I am reasonably competent in working on cars, it's entirely possible that I am screwing up checking the VSV.
  • I think it's weird that my NOx readings almost tripled from my first test. This makes me think I messed something up when I did the work after Test 1. I don't have a vacuum pump so I've never tested the EGR valve. Is a bad EGR valve a possible culprit? In my head, it would be a huge coincidence if the VSV went bad in the 8 days between my first and second test.
    • I've read that the VSV can fail intermittently. It's possible that it was fine for the first test but not for the next 2?
  • I've never had a CEL. Since it's an ODBI, I used the paper clip method and didn't get any codes. Shouldn't I get a CEL if the VSV isn't working properly? Or possibly is the ODBI incapable of sending a code for a bad VSV?
  • I don't notice any issues when I drive it. I've only had it since December, but I pay very close attention to my trucks driving behavior/sounds/etc and I think I would have noticed it if my truck was running funky.
  • The cats look like they could be replaced, but obviously looks aren't dispositive. If I needed new cats, I would expect my other readings to be high as well? PO replaced the O2 sensors within the year.
  • My truck passed California emissions tests, but it doesn't appear that they test for NOx (I have 2 test results from PO). So I don't know how long this has been a problem for.
Sorry for the long-winded message. I've been going crazy the last month trying to get this thing registered in my name. I really appreciate any feedback.
 

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I can say on my obd2 truck when I had egr problems it tripped the check engine with a po 402 I think it was. Obd 1 I think will as well. My truck had a bad vsv, I tested by running power to it no click just like you. Sounds like your vsv is failing or failed, I would change. Will it fix the emissions hard to say on that. When I lived in the front range I moved to a county that didn’t have emissions to solve that problem.
 
I can say on my obd2 truck when I had egr problems it tripped the check engine with a po 402 I think it was. Obd 1 I think will as well. My truck had a bad vsv, I tested by running power to it no click just like you. Sounds like your vsv is failing or failed, I would change. Will it fix the emissions hard to say on that. When I lived in the front range I moved to a county that didn’t have emissions to solve that problem.
Thanks for the reply. I went ahead and ordered a new VSV. I'm hoping that solves my problem. I'm skeptical because I'm not getting any CELs, but fingers crossed!
 
I currently have a similar issue with my 97. High NOx not passing emissions. My EGR modulator is not behaving as the FSM describes, though no codes are being thrown. You would think it would throw a code. Going to replace it and see.

You can test the EGR valve by connecting it directly to engine vacuum. The engine should run rough or die if it’s functioning right.
 
I currently have a similar issue with my 97. High NOx not passing emissions. My EGR modulator is not behaving as the FSM describes, though no codes are being thrown. You would think it would throw a code. Going to replace it and see.

You can test the EGR valve by connecting it directly to engine vacuum. The engine should run rough or die if it’s functioning right.
I tested the EGR modulator per the FSM and mine seemed fine. I plan on testing the EGR valve in the next day or two before I replace the VSV. Best of luck!
 
I tested the EGR modulator per the FSM and mine seemed fine. I plan on testing the EGR valve in the next day or two before I replace the VSV. Best of luck!
You were able to block P and R and blow through Q? Mine seems blocked; can’t really blow through.

It seems your VSV may be bad if you can blow through it when 12V is applied. So probably a good call to replace.
 
You were able to block P and R and blow through Q? Mine seems blocked; can’t really blow through.

It seems your VSV may be bad if you can blow through it when 12V is applied. So probably a good call to replace.
Yes I was able to blow through Q while blocking P and R. It was a little tricky to tell because I had to blow decently hard and I have no idea what type of resistance I would get from a property functioning modulator. But I was able to blow and air came out of the port below the filter (if the modulator was installed on the engine, air would be coming straight up toward the sky). I removed the cap and saw the filter move a bit when I blew, so I assume it was functioning properly.
 

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