Driving "feel" 100 vs. 200 (1 Viewer)

[LBridges]

I've got about 2K miles on a 2017 LC now. Here's my observations after a back to back drive of a 2000 LX (221K miles) and the '17 LC.

1. 200's steering requires more effort to turn the steering wheel - no drag or anything, just harder to turn the wheel.
2. 100's brakes require more pedal effort to stop - not talking about panic stops, just a normal approach to red light. The 100 has less than a year on new calipers, rotors, a fluid flush and stainless lines.
3. 200 has a stronger response to initial parts of throttle application - first bit of fast pedal on the 200 takes some foot finesse, not so on the 100 - more linear.

Both are currently running street tires: LX on Michelins w/18" Tundra wheels, LC on the OEM 18" Dunlops.

Anybody else get the same impressions or is it just my stuff or all in my head? (Disclaimer: no scientists were harmed during my tests)

A probably insignificant observation: the brakes and steering on both the 100 and 200 are heavier than on a '13 Prius v. And if in the drive by wire system is set in "power" mode, pretty sure the Prius could take the 100 in a zero to 40 mph drag, maybe even 0-60.

 

[LCHardriver_02]

I agree on 1 & 2, but found that when we first got our LX, it seemed like it took forever to get off the line. The 100 was very linear. Now, with that said, the LX has become more peppy off the line and I think that this is the ECU learning the way I drive.

 

[Markuson]

I've got about 2K miles on a 2017 LC now. Here's my observations after a back to back drive of a 2000 LX (221K miles) and the '17 LC.

1. 200's steering requires more effort to turn the steering wheel - no drag or anything, just harder to turn the wheel.
2. 100's brakes require more pedal effort to stop - not talking about panic stops, just a normal approach to red light. The 100 has less than a year on new calipers, rotors, a fluid flush and stainless lines.
3. 200 has a stronger response to initial parts of throttle application - first bit of fast pedal on the 200 takes some foot finesse, not so on the 100 - more linear.

Both are currently running street tires: LX on Michelins w/18" Tundra wheels, LC on the OEM 18" Dunlops.

Anybody else get the same impressions or is it just my stuff or all in my head? (Disclaimer: no scientists were harmed during my tests)

A probably insignificant observation: the brakes and steering on both the 100 and 200 are heavier than on a '13 Prius v. And if in the drive by wire system is set in "power" mode, pretty sure the Prius could take the 100 in a zero to 40 mph drag, maybe even 0-60.

Definitely a touchy accelerator. This may have played a roll in my falling off the back with severe injury last August (my own stupidity) as my uncle who was driving didn't realize how touchy the accelerator was/is. Much more sensitive than my 100. Also...GOBS more power over the 100. Like WOW...a WHOLE lot more.

Steering wheel definitely requires more effort to fine tune on the freeway, but I don't notice it any more. -Just an initial adjustment.

Braking...I actually find the 200's brakes require more foot effort than my 100. Much more pressure applied at the foot on the 20 for me.

The seats are flatter in the 200...wish they were more contoured...but they are comfortable on loooooong drives.

Suspension is much better up front on the 200 IMO. No more torsion bars.

Over all, the 200 is amazing, though initially I kinda hated the stock form with its marshmallowy exterior. However...after taking interior panels off for various mods, I can say without question that the extra bubbly panels are CRAMMED FULL of useful stuff...like the astounding 28 AC vents through the vehicle. The AC is amazing IMHO. Love...love...LOVE my 200, and will love it every bit as much as my fully built 100 in two weeks when it is nearly a fully built truck too.

 

[LBridges]

... Love...love...LOVE my 200, and will love it every bit as much as my fully built 100 in two weeks when it is nearly a fully built truck too.

Me too. I was pretty skeptical in reading the 200 forum thinking most of you guys were just saying how great it was because you sunk so much money in it. But I have to admit, having kept the 100, the 200 is clearly a much advanced machine in virtually every aspect.

I wish I could go more "built" on the 200, but SWMBO wants to keep it a luxury cruiser for a while. I did convince her to let me get a set of step sliders - told her they would help protect against parking lot dings - at which point she offered to split paying for them. I welcome all other ideas for enhancement discussions.

 

[Markuson]

Me too. I was pretty skeptical in reading the 200 forum thinking most of you guys were just saying how great it was because you sunk so much money in it. But I have to admit, having kept the 100, the 200 is clearly a much advanced machine in virtually every aspect.

I wish I could go more "built" on the 200, but SWMBO wants to keep it a luxury cruiser for a while. I did convince her to let me get a set of step sliders - told her they would help protect against parking lot dings - at which point she offered to split paying for them. I welcome all other ideas for enhancement discussions.

Try this with your wife:

A bull bar can provide the "luxury" of LIFE in an animal strike...

My wife and I have had several very close calls, and were nearby when a couple was killed by a moose that came through their windshield in Alaska.

 

[linuxgod]

re: #3, mine is very touchy when in "ECT Pwr" mode. In "Eco" mode it's much less touchy (though I personally dislike the shift points that Eco mode uses).

 

[PDXLX]

I love both my 100 and 200. It's hard to compare. Like comparing a Nokia brick to a iPhone. Both are great but the 200 is just leaps and bounds better in every way.
10 years of tech changes make a world of difference in vehicles.

 

[HRTROB]

The 2016-up 200s have the bigger front brake rotors, which have more bite compared to the older models. It's really a night and day difference.

 

[uzj100]

0 to 60 on the 200 is 6.5.

0 to 60 on the 100 is 9. Dt equipped a bit faster.

I thought the pre azz was slower than both.