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Hmm, I liked the pups though. I guess I'll shop around some more. Need to see some doberman pups. But i defn did not look the behavior or setup of this person's backyard
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Hmm, I liked the pups though. I guess I'll shop around some more. Need to see some doberman pups. But i defn did not look the behavior or setup of this person's backyard
A lot of what you saw with the GSDs you visited was probably due to lack of training, being left alone, secluded, not socialized, etc. The father of my dobe barked the whole time I was at their place. However, they lived out in a secluded area, so he wasn't socialized at all. My dobe doesn't bark at all unless someone knocks at the door, and then he will bark once and wait for me to get the door with tail wagging. I brought him up in a college town though, so he is very well socialized. Maybe even over socialized. I paid $450 for mine, and he is worth every penny. You should be able to find a good dobe for $500 or less and a good GSD for around $300.
Genetics are a huge part of who the dog is. It's a good thing to investigate the parents of any dog you buy from a breeder. If a breeder will not let you meet the parents, then walk away. They should have the temperment you want in the puppy when it's an adult. Remember, if she's been backyard breeding for 18 years, she could have already bred those behaviors into her "line." Backyard breeders will have at least 2 litters a year. Bitches go into heat at 6 months. So theoretically, she could have 36 breedings in 18 years. (if she breeds a pair, then the pups, then the pups...etc). Plenty of time to inbreed and cement those bahaviors you don't want.
Have you ever looked at the magazine Dog Fancy? There are ads in the back for breeders. Make sure that any breeder you choose is breeding AKC registered pups. If you are not planning on showing the dog (which will save you $$$) then make sure the breeder tells you your puppy is pet quality. That means that the dog is not top of the line show confirmation. Which is fine for what you need. You should also make sure that the dog comes with a spay/neuter contract. What that means is that the breeder cares enough about the quality of their line not to perpetuate less than perfect characteristics. Also, be sure that the GSD puppy comes with an OFA hip certification. Breeders are required by AKC to have the bitch and the stud xrayed and certified for stable hips. That can save you thousands in hip surgery costs (as me how I know...).
Lemme tell you, you get what you pay for. A few hundred dollars now will save you thousands of dollars and tons of heartache in the future. I was on a waiting list for 2 years for a Saint Bernard puppy. The cost would have been $1200. In stead, I adopted a puppy mill puppy. $5000 in hip surgery later, I wouldn't trade him for the world...but damn he the most expensive free puppy ever.
Have you ever looked at the magazine Dog Fancy? There are ads in the back for breeders. Make sure that any breeder you choose is breeding AKC registered pups. If you are not planning on showing the dog (which will save you $$$) then make sure the breeder tells you your puppy is pet quality. That means that the dog is not top of the line show confirmation. Which is fine for what you need. You should also make sure that the dog comes with a spay/neuter contract. What that means is that the breeder cares enough about the quality of their line not to perpetuate less than perfect characteristics. Also, be sure that the GSD puppy comes with an OFA hip certification. Breeders are required by AKC to have the bitch and the stud xrayed and certified for stable hips. That can save you thousands in hip surgery costs (as me how I know...).
Lemme tell you, you get what you pay for. A few hundred dollars now will save you thousands of dollars and tons of heartache in the future. I was on a waiting list for 2 years for a Saint Bernard puppy. The cost would have been $1200. In stead, I adopted a puppy mill puppy. $5000 in hip surgery later, I wouldn't trade him for the world...but damn he the most expensive free puppy ever.
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The wife and I finally agreed on a Dobe. While we were looking for a breeder we stumbled apon Egyptian Pharoh Hounds??? Ya I never heard of them either.There very simular to the Dobe,different coat and a longer neck.We both thought she was a cool looking dog and parents had a great demenor.The plusses are ears stand on own,and they don't dock the tail.We have three kids,and there friends she has shown no aggression so far and has been a great house dog as of yet.Don't get me wrong she does all the puppy b*&^%$t,but a very good dog.
Ya,the're kind kreepy lookin,but we likem. They don't have the Dobe rep for being an attack dog either,allthough they were protection,hunter,companion dogs originaly.
Ya,the're kind kreepy lookin,but we likem. They don't have the Dobe rep for being an attack dog either,allthough they were protection,hunter,companion dogs originaly.
I always thought those pictures in the Egyption Pharoh's pictograms were cats.
Keep us post on how that works out for ya.
Keep us post on how that works out for ya.
Pharaoh hounds are awesome. I have had 3. Two died from parvo at an early age. The other one lived to be 16 years old. They were bred to hunt and have a funny/strange personallity.
Dobes
We've had Dobes since the early 80's. Never met a more loyal, and intelligent dog. We'll always have Dobes in our home.
We've had Dobes since the early 80's. Never met a more loyal, and intelligent dog. We'll always have Dobes in our home.
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Will do. Going here in ten minutes
Heidelberg German Shepherds
Not sure if I can afford those pups but want to see how well behaved the studs are
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Those pharaoh hounds are very beautiful 
Thanks for the advice on the Saint Bernard, I'm gonna be patient with this. Been wanting a dog for about 7-8 years now, have really been looking into it these past three months. Every place I call they all go "you want it before Christmas". I'm just being real patient with this.
Thanks for the advice on the Saint Bernard, I'm gonna be patient with this. Been wanting a dog for about 7-8 years now, have really been looking into it these past three months. Every place I call they all go "you want it before Christmas". I'm just being real patient with this.
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