Diehard Platinum Discontinued

[Brock]

Sears no longer makes the widely sought Diehard Platinum that many of us ran in our Land Cruisers due to its toughness, CCA and reliability. Appears they had some issues with them as of late and the trouble was not worth the extra cost so it was discontinued.

They have a Diehard series to replace it that is their new AGM battery....but the Platinum Series is no more.

Went to put a new batter in the LX470 yesterday as mine was having issues after 5.5 years of heavy use with a long winch two weeks ago being nail in coffin. LOL Anyhow...thought I would share. Still some on shelves but once depleted will be no more. I am sure Odyssey made them for Sears so you can still buy the Odyssey branded versions if you so desire. Not sure who is making their new AGM battery....could still be odyssey as the rep mentioned that the Platinum was MILSPEC and the additional cost was not worth it for 90% of their customers.

 

[CharlestonG8R]

Since you are mentioning your battery and your winch... And we have similar vehicles... Do you have any protection for your winch power lines or do you run them straight to the battery? I saw some ONSC guys having power lead meltdowns and was curious about your setup...

 

[BBQ BOY]

Interesting. I was just hoping that battery the other day and didn't see that they were being discontinued. Rat Farts!!!

 

[BenMara]

power leads to and from batter and winch should be the shortest (with in reason). BC it is the most amp hungry item. Very doubtful anything else on a vehicle is as amp hungry. (more useless aviation/avionics BS i know)

 

[CharlestonG8R]

power leads to and from batter and winch should be the shortest (with in reason). BC it is the most amp hungry item. Very doubtful anything else on a vehicle is as amp hungry. (more useless aviation/avionics BS i know)

Sure, I agree. They should be the shortest. But what kind of protection should be on the winch? Looks like someone had a few wires ground out on his chassis and his wires got fried. I'm not sure if it happened when he was using it or not... My power cables run directly from the winch to the battery on the 40. There are no fuses or switches. I think it would only matter if there was potential for a power surge from the battery, but I think the winch can handle whatever the battery puts out. Maybe the other driver's wires couldn't handle the amperage from the short to ground?

 

[Brock]

There is a risk that it could STICK OPEN and burn it all up so many put the boat battery disconnect setups so they can cut power to winch in an emergency. The other thing is to not do LONG PULLS as it causes the battery to overheat and draw it down too much. Short bursts help.

The best thing is to run a dual battery setup with a deep cycle battery for the winch isolated from vehicle power setup and then put a battery disconnect in place like mentioned as a fail safe. That way vehicle is running off of the original...winch and lights run off the second battery and they have full separation in the system.

Hoping my next Land Cruiser has a PTO winch

 

[BBQ BOY]

and this is why, @CharlestonG8R, I told you the other day as to why i'm looking for the OEM PTO winch for the Pig.

 

[dbenke]

Just make sure if it runs through the body anywhere, it can't rub the insulation.

Back to batteries...I am sold on Interstate...I will run them in everything I own now.

 

[BenMara]

if i was that worried about Gnding out wire id just disconnect the GND of winch and hook it when needed... its not $ effective to get a hight amp switch or breaker, time and 10mm wrench are cheaper...

 

[Brock]

maybe so ben....but for the money we spend on tires, lifts, winches, lights and gas.....and knowing that humans are going to go with what is easy....the possiblity that after winching out of god awful mucky mess that the driver wont take the time to open hood again and disconnect the wires from battery every time. Same reason we use winches instead of comealongs, traction matts instead of hi lifts, etc. Hell, most people I see using winches and jacks outside photo shoots in magazines rarely use gloves, dampen the cable or open hood for safety.

It really is not about grounding wire...more that the solenoid would stick when winch gets hot eventually burning up winch, battery and who knows what else.