cutting down fullsize axles?

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TJDIV i assume your talkn d44 front and rear? d44 marginal if not any stronger then cruiser axles, while fullsize width is what you are lookin for then these would be away to go. d44 no tire over 36" and v8 power, unless street only, imo.
I am starting at 38" tire with plans to go larger, and built sb or bb, doubler etc...

5.13 14 is within $5 of a 60 5.13 set in the 4wheel parts mag i have layin here, detroit 14 $416 detroit 60 $550, yes these are just alist price.
I bought one item from them, and was unhappy to say the least about them, but they just send me a catalog all the time, i will not purchase from them again.

WEIGHT of the axle will break it? unsprung, not exactly sure what you mean. now if your talkin weight of a cruiser then yes i agree it is a very heavy vehicle. Axle housing strength i would have to say 14 would be stronger then a 60.

I guess i assumed this work was going to go to a trail/street rig, so an open carrier would be out of the question. street only run cruiser axles and open pigs, and 38" tires.

SF axle has no stand in here, unless your drag racing it, i need one for another project.

low budget,
14 bolt complete, 4.10 posi, $150 out the yard
cut and reweld without me doing it, $100-$200 -+$50 either way depends who does it here.
resplined sent to someone $40 and i still believe these can be resplined, i cannot get ahold of the dude that built the axle. And at 15 degrees its too damn cold for me to go to the driveway and pull an axle shaft and measure it.

60 4.10 but traklocs are harder to find, 30 spline 1.31 axleshafts, labor same, respline same. still weaker, and lighter 100 lbs i think is too much.

tearing it down and reassembling it free as i hope anyone can do it.

D80 for $60 still available? need one for thy tow rig, cummins. IT has
its place.
 
[quote author=TJDIV link=board=1;threadid=11443;start=msg104904#msg104904 date=1076783646]
Guys, I'll pipe in again....what in the HELL do ALL of you do that outlaws putting a 44 on your Cruisers? I enjoy my Cruiser thoroughly with 44's and have about a 0.25% level of concern of these things breaking.

Sounds a little like Tim talking here from Home Improvement when I read this stuff.

I CAN BREAK anything; don't get me wrong, but I really don't get the "gotta be bigger/stronger" itch some guys get.

Not to mention; with me, it's Chevrolet parts we're talking about breaking here, who gives a sh*t, there's probably 10 of everything at every yard in town.

Either way, all of what has been said involves more than $300 hands down considering labor, (even when self performed); and more headaches than most will admit. Drive Shafts/pinions are an absolute, beyond the shadow of a doubt issue here.

Good Luck.
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A front 44 is comprable to a cruiser axle. Not realy any upgrade. And upgrades (longs, chromoly inners are significantly cheaper than a CTM) don;t really make the 44 any better IMHO.
If you want width? Go 44.

The itch is more along the lines of "gotta be stronger/smarter"....

No matter what you are looking at more than $300 for a "custom" axle.

HI, call up 4WP and see if they can actually get you a 14 bolt 5.13
I can get them for 199.00 (if available)
D60 is more like $160

I consider welding the rear diff the answer to locker options ;)

Weight is a general statement. The heavier the total cruiser is the more apt you are to break. And that includes axles.

Why does SF not have a place here?

I bet that a 9" could handle any amount of gruff you plan to throw at it.
FF is a issue in a tow rig. With LOTS of weight on the axles. It makes almost no difference on a trail rig (unless you consider what happens to the tire when an axle breaks (C clip))

30 spline 60's are a waste of time. The cruiser axle is just as strong.
Upgrade to 35 spline (D70 shafts will fit) and you have the same size shafts (1.5") as a 14 bolt but more splines (30 vs 35)

Nope, I let it go. Someone I am sure is very happy to have it.

Dam that was a huge pig.. Made the 14 bolt look tiny..

:D
 
oh yeah...just so you all know...i didnt get the cruiser with the fullsize axles... :doh:
 
Sorry to hear it wasnt what you were looking for but (no offense) these guys forgot about you a long time ago. I get a kick out of it when they get on a rant anyway. Maybe the next one will suit your needs. Good luck.
 
When you do find another one, worry more about how the modifications were done. There are some real hackers out there. The strength of any mod done by the seller is based more on the quality of the work, than the quality of parts.

I'd rather have a full width D44 done right, than a D70 held in with booger welds and duct tape.

ALL IH8MUD USERS EXCLUDED FROM THAT "HACKER" COMMENT! :D
 
I just used 4wp as that is what i had infront of me.

Try www.adamsdrivetrain.com/gears.htm just an online shop with prices is all i was lookin at, less then $10 difference.

welded is not recommend nor would i consider it to be streetable.

9", sf 60 1.31, and cruiser rear are all about the same strength, stock.
only after more $$$$ could one become stronger then others, but then again
your putting money in a weaker axle just by its design SF vs FF. There is a large thread here or on pbb about design difference in sf vs ff, many articles, testing, etc...also. BUILDING a SF is not cost affective when strength is concerned.

ff60 30 spline i would say is stronger then cruiser SF stock.

1.5 shafts will not fit approx 90% d 60 rears without enlargin the spindles. i do have bom # for the direct shaft replacements the d70 fit in d60 housings.


"FF is a issue in a tow rig. With LOTS of weight on the axles." agree but a cruiser on an incline where rear axle is moving and carrying all the weight, or in a
rock situation where nearly all weight is on one tire, rotating mass of any tire on an axle, now enlarge the tire add more mass. sprung and unsprung weight, if axle is going to break cause the axle weighs 100lbs more then another axle in the same vehicle, then the smaller, weaker axle will also break and possible bend the housing more easily then the heavier.

we didnt forget, we just took his ? and expanded on it :D
 
[quote author=mancinator link=board=1;threadid=11443;start=msg105126#msg105126 date=1076824946]
oh yeah...just so you all know...i didnt get the cruiser with the fullsize axles... :doh:
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Bummer!

Getting a cruiser with less mods is a better idea anyway.. No one ever bothers to build something the way you want to. You eventually end up fixing stuff the way you want to anyway. It is best to do the mods you want to yourself instead of fixing mistakes..

Bama, this is a discussion board no one forgot about mancinator.

Most of us have strong opinions about stuff. Things that have worked and not worked.

When you are in built D60/14 bolt/Built 9" range you are looking at very tough components.. It is very hard to break all of them..

Lets leave it at that ;)
 
I love my 35 spline, ARB'ed, 4.88 geared Dana 60 front, and the 35 spline ARB'ed, 4.88 geared Dana 60 center with 9" outers, converting to full float, that are 6.75 inches wider than stock. They have worked great for me. I have on hand all spare parts for anything custom that I run, so when something does go wrong, I can fix it, and keep having fun.

I outgrew Toyota axles in '98, and needed something better, and stronger, because I do not like to be wrenching, when I am supposed to be wheelin'..

Build what you want, run what you want.

Good luck!

-Steve
 
No, no... dont get me wrong. Im not complaining. Picked up piles of good axle info for future project consideration. Keep it coming! :beer: Just not sure his original ? ever really got answered. See Mancinator was asking about price for cutting axles and got Axle Swap 101 in return. Again, not complaining.
 
haha, dont worry fellas...im enjoying the edumecation even though i hardly know what half you guys ar etalkign about soemtimes :flipoff2:
 
Mancinator-

Try giving these folks a call. I have done buisness with them in the past, and have been very helpful. I do not think that they will perform the work, but I am pretty certain that they could give you phone numbers of people in the area that do.

http://www.dutchmanms.com/contact.html

Good luck!

Report back and let us know what you find out.

-Steve
 

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