cutting down fullsize axles?

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just wondering if anyone can give me a ballpark on cutting down some fullwidth 3/4 axles so that they dont stick out so far on each side on an fj40. i think it looks silly and is too wide a stance for my purposes.i am in portland or, so if anyone knows any good shops that will do this, let me know as well. thank you!
 
Why switch to a D44??

It really is not any stronger..

If you are going to upgrade axles go to 1 ton stuff..
 
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just wondering if anyone can give me a ballpark on cutting down some fullwidth 3/4 axles so that they dont stick out so far on each side on an fj40. i think it looks silly and is too wide a stance for my purposes.i am in portland or, so if anyone knows any good shops that will do this, let me know as well. thank you!
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I wouldn't cut them either. I put them under full width and like them. If I were you; I'd look into some other options. Guys here can provide them. 60 front and rears or something, but it's pointless to get D44's cut. I put them under because it was dirt cheap and pretty easy, not to spend extra money.

Unless you need the interchangeability of common parts; find a more stock option. Trust me. If you don't like the width, you're going to be 'incredibly' pissed off when you're done.

:-\

and I guess FWIW; Cutting D44's is like screwing for virginity.

(again)

Here's a pic of mine with the full width axles:
http://www.ih8mud.com/cgi-bin/readers.cgi?action=view&type=standard&user=tjdiv

You can get an offset wheel to compensate the width a little, but if you want to run any "real" tire at all you'll be back out wide again.

Oh; and not to mention the drive shaft mod's you'll probably have to do or at least the shimming/pinion angle game. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to talk you out of this; it's a lot of work.

Good Luck
 
14 bolt comes in 63" wms and 44 come in heeps that are just about any width you could want. You could get away with heep 44 front and cuttin one side on a 14bolt that had 68" wms and maintain an offset rear pig. I believe the one i seen done the 14 bolt ended up like 60" or so.
 
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14 bolt comes in 63" wms and 44 come in heeps that are just about any width you could want. You could get away with heep 44 front and cuttin one side on a 14bolt that had 68" wms and maintain an offset rear pig. I believe the one i seen done the 14 bolt ended up like 60" or so.
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If you are going to a custom rear axle (cutting down a 14 bolt) don't do a 14. Do a 60. They don't weigh as much.

Doing any mods (other than cutting off the lip) to a 14 bolt is a waste of time.
 
oh hey guys...this isnt on my cruiser ...but it is on one that i am thinking about goign to look at and if i have to drive 4 hours each way, im going to have a hard time justifying returnign home empyt handed. i will probably have to just run less offset rims, becuase i want a fat footprinted tire....i just dont want to have to have 6 inch plastic fender flares on each side that looks totally ghetto...also the trails here are mostly too narrow for fullwidths...but i guess i will figure all this out when i actually see the truck. if it were up to me it would still have the original toy axles...with disc brakes and smurfs :D
thanks for the help
 
tjdiv...yours looks just they way i want it to....dont get me wrogn guys, i like the wide stance, in fact i prefer it, but i dont want the tires half a foot outside of each fender...thats all. i was just lookign for options...if worse comes ot worse i will just find soem cruiser axles.
 
hey, FWIW, I've seen some wide axle Cruisers that look like s***. It's a combo thing, wheels, tires, fenders, etc. I like my set-up. I can get it into a few positions where it looks just a little too wide, but then I realize how BAD ASS it is and get over it.

For anyone who wants to see more pics, let me know I put an email together to forward to an email address. Email size is 318K and contains 6 pics (I think).

Bottom Line, if you're going to Cut an axle, go with a bigger one (60 at least) and if you can get away with not cutting them, Good God, don't do it.
 
So, what is a "real" tire?
 
MACE i have to disagree.

if you want to build a lighter, weaker axle for a good chunk more money then yes a 60 would be what you want.

you could cut one side, new custom shafts not respline, detroit and gear, cut the lip shave as much weight as you felt needed, clearance like a d44 if you like. And still be stronger, and about $300 + ahead of similiar setup d60.

if not custom shafts, i know just about any junkyard in the US would have spares. but specific 60 length would be harder.

IN the END

To each his own

not my money
 
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MACE i have to disagree.

if you want to build a lighter, weaker axle for a good chunk more money then yes a 60 would be what you want.

you could cut one side, new custom shafts not respline, detroit and gear, cut the lip shave as much weight as you felt needed, clearance like a d44 if you like. And still be stronger, and about $300 + ahead of similiar setup d60.

if not custom shafts, i know just about any junkyard in the US would have spares. but specific 60 length would be harder.

IN the END

To each his own

not my money
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Weaker?
Why?
Pinions? axle shafts?

14 bolts are huge, heavy pigs..
But they are strong and cheap..
That is the only reason I have one.

If a narrowed axle is what you want you are already talking about custom shafts.
C&C, Dually and SRW 14 bolts all have the same axleshafts... So you cannot find one that is shorter and cut doen one side to match it.

So, D60 center section (just as cheap as a 14 bolt typically)
Upgrade to 35 spline when you cut down one side (you are already in the axle shafts)
And you are pretty much done.

Essentailly just as strong as a 14 bolt and about 100lbs lighter..


Or am I missing something here.
 
[quote author=HI^C link=board=1;threadid=11443;start=msg104771#msg104771 date=1076740290]
MACE i have to disagree.

if you want to build a lighter, weaker axle for a good chunk more money then yes a 60 would be what you want.

you could cut one side, new custom shafts not respline, detroit and gear, cut the lip shave as much weight as you felt needed, clearance like a d44 if you like. And still be stronger, and about $300 + ahead of similiar setup d60.

if not custom shafts, i know just about any junkyard in the US would have spares. but specific 60 length would be harder.

IN the END

To each his own

not my money
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....

A 44 stronger than a 60...sure, a sixteen spline rear...that is about it....

Front? You have got to be kidding...I sure hope you are not serious...
 
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....

A 44 stronger than a 60...sure, a sixteen spline rear...that is about it....

Front? You have got to be kidding...I sure hope you are not serious...


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Psst, he said that by shaving the lip off of a 14 bolt you would have the clearance of a D44, not the strength ;)
 
[quote author=Mace link=board=1;threadid=11443;start=msg104788#msg104788 date=1076742390]
Psst, he said that by shaving the lip off of a 14 bolt you would have the clearance of a D44, not the strength ;)
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Please forgive me, I have been drinking.......a lot.

Hic- :beer:

Mace-:beer:

Poser- No more :beer:


Have a good night guys!
 
[quote author=Poser link=board=1;threadid=11443;start=msg104790#msg104790 date=1076742717]
Please forgive me, I have been drinking.......a lot.

Hic- :beer:

Mace-:beer:

Poser- No more :beer:


Have a good night guys!
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LOL

Sleep well big guy..
 
weaker yes,

pinion size, bearing support, carriers, axle shafts, ring gear size, and of course that heavy axle means shes got somemore material in her axle tube thickness and that huge center chunk is gusseted like no other.

14 bolt nearest rival is a d70, but 14 is suppose to be stronger. d80?

YES dana 60 can become closer in strength, 35 spline shafts 1.5", 90% of d60 need spindles enlarged to take a 1.5" shaft. $$$ yes the few 60 hd that will take
factory d70 35 spline shafts are harder then crap to find and might be less then the left over 10% mentioned above.

price varies, but i have been given, thrown away more 14 bolts, and the local yards is at least a 10 to 1 ratio 14 to 60.

I would be interested in a stock, no cut, LBS Vs LBS weights 14 vs 60 without brakes or similiar setup discs. damn drums on 14.

costs of 60 parts, detroit, gears, install kits, labor to install, labor to bore spindles for 1.5 shafts, are more expensive then a 14, no boreing of spindles on the 14.

let me get back to you on the axleshaft statement, 14b axleshafts are the same, i was talking about custom shafts as in both sides and only one side cut from stock length. THEN the other way is using stock axle shaft on oneside and cut and respline the cut side, but now i think about it i am not sure that the stock shaft can be cut and resplined. I could have swore that is the way the guy here did it?
Then i compared the 14 bolts have same axleshaft vs many many different 60 axles that do not have the same axle shaft length.
 
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weaker yes,

pinion size, bearing support, carriers, axle shafts, ring gear size, and of course that heavy axle means shes got somemore material in her axle tube thickness and that huge center chunk is gusseted like no other.

14 bolt nearest rival is a d70, but 14 is suppose to be stronger. d80?

YES dana 60 can become closer in strength, 35 spline shafts 1.5", 90% of d60 need spindles enlarged to take a 1.5" shaft. $$$ yes the few 60 hd that will take
factory d70 35 spline shafts are harder then crap to find and might be less then the left over 10% mentioned above.

price varies, but i have been given, thrown away more 14 bolts, and the local yards is at least a 10 to 1 ratio 14 to 60.

I would be interested in a stock, no cut, LBS Vs LBS weights 14 vs 60 without brakes or similiar setup discs. damn drums on 14.

costs of 60 parts, detroit, gears, install kits, labor to install, labor to bore spindles for 1.5 shafts, are more expensive then a 14, no boreing of spindles on the 14.

let me get back to you on the axleshaft statement, 14b axleshafts are the same, i was talking about custom shafts as in both sides and only one side cut from stock length. THEN the other way is using stock axle shaft on oneside and cut and respline the cut side, but now i think about it i am not sure that the stock shaft can be cut and resplined. I could have swore that is the way the guy here did it?
Then i compared the 14 bolts have same axleshaft vs many many different 60 axles that do not have the same axle shaft length.
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Honestly, a 60 housing is plenty strong for a 40. How many people do you know that commonly bust 60 gearsets?? or rear 60 housings?

I do not think that you can respline a 14 bolt.

The gussetts and pig are what make a 14 bolt so much heavier.. And generally weight is your enemy..

We are talking about low budget..

find either a 60 or 14 bolt, (same cost)

Narrow one side (same cost)

Custom axles (basically the same with a possible slight cost increase to the 60 depending on how you do it)

Get some 35 spline side gears for a 60 carrier ($30)

Or you could weld a set of 9" ends on the 60 housing and go SF.

What I am saying is that custom mods to a 14 bolt are just as expensive as a 60 (if not more so, have you priced a 5.13 gearset for a 14 bolt lately?) And that they are significantly heavier.
Heavy breaks. That is a fact.

I could have had a D80 for $60. But what a waste of time that would have been...

They are big boat anchors..


14 bolts are nice because they are strong and cheap fromt he factory. If you are talking custom mods for almost the same price you will have a more suitable axle made by Dana...
 
Guys, I'll pipe in again....what in the HELL do ALL of you do that outlaws putting a 44 on your Cruisers? I enjoy my Cruiser thoroughly with 44's and have about a 0.25% level of concern of these things breaking.

Sounds a little like Tim talking here from Home Improvement when I read this stuff.

I CAN BREAK anything; don't get me wrong, but I really don't get the "gotta be bigger/stronger" itch some guys get.

Not to mention; with me, it's Chevrolet parts we're talking about breaking here, who gives a sh*t, there's probably 10 of everything at every yard in town.

Either way, all of what has been said involves more than $300 hands down considering labor, (even when self performed); and more headaches than most will admit. Drive Shafts/pinions are an absolute, beyond the shadow of a doubt issue here.

Good Luck.
 

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