Considering a Patrol

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I'm considering purchasing an early 90's Safari/Patrol from an importer (preferably one that is landed here and can be inspected), and was looking for advise and any specific service issues related to them.

Any Safari / Patrol owners out there that want to share their experience?

Thanks,
Ian
 
there are quite a few out here in ksa. all are gassers. 2 and 4 door. the only thing that sticks out in my head aside from their longevity, that ive heard, is they are very very thirsty. i think there may be some issues with certain diesels, but not sure. there are some aussie 4x4 forums out there that could give you more info.

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good luck!
 
I have two of them: a 91 and a 93. The 91 is a 5 spd 7 pas LWB and the 93 is an auto 5 pas LWB. Both are NA TD4.2. In 1994 the TD4.2T (turboed) became an option which dramaticlly increases the zoom factor. Almost all of the Safaris (Patrols) came with a LSD or vacuum locker rear dif. Some came with factory PTOs (highly sought after) or electric winches. Some also came with dealer installed camping kits. The TD4.2 is known as a 1,000,000 km engine if it is regularly serviced. There are well documented cases of them going way over that before any major overhaul. They are unaffected by turboing with moderate boost. The TD4.2 is an industrial engine and found in UD Tuck, Buses, Nissan Marine and Nissan Forklifts. The Safari/Patrol is used by a number of militaries around the world. It is also used by the UN peacekeepers. NA, it will easily push you along at 110 km/hr on the freeway. However, on the top of the Coq hill you will find yourself down to 60 km/hr in 3rd gear. All TD4.2 have twin oil filters. Some 1991 TD4.2s have a full flow filter and a by-pass filter (more $). The sump holds about 11 L of oil, so oil changes are not cheap. Factory skid plates run from half way through the front drive shaft to well past the T-case. Most Safaris come with auto front hubs. Some come with auto/manula hubs. The later is now sought after by the comp guys in Australia as they are built much stronger than other manual or full auto hubs.

Issue areas to watch out for is rusting rear window frames, broken window regulators (the weakest item in the Safari because the damn 24V motors torque snap the welds on the regulators), leaky injection pumps (esp pre 1993), diveted rockers (valve lash must be set every 40,000 kms), loose wheel bearings and worn body mounts. As these engines are indirect injection and therefore soot up quickly like the 3B or 2H, oil changes have to happen every 5000-6000 kms. If that doesn't happen, you can expect premature wear. A compression tests and leak down test is recommended. Most of them have their origonal shocks and springs. All Safaris can benefit from a 2" suspension lift available from any ARB dealer ($1200 +/-). The autos can go a long time if the fluid is regularly changed and a transmission cooler is added. If not, they tend to fall apart around the 200,000 - 300,000 km mark.
Parts, if you need them are available from many Nissan dealers (but you need to provide them the part numbers), from Rocky Mountain Imports, and from a number of online sources in the US, Australia and the UK. There are also a few crossover parts from various LC models to the Patrol.

Check out Patrol4x4 for a lot more information. It's an Aussie forum but we have a Canadian section there as well as a section for Safari specifics such as its 24V system.

Good luck.
 
Thanks for the reply. It's good to hear that parts aren't impossible to come by. Nice to know about the AT's. I'd prefer a MT anyway, but the two that I have located are both AT's. I'm in no rush, so I'll probably wait for my ideal ride, or order one from someone trustworthy.

If you don't mind me asking, what should I expect for fuel economy in a mostly stock NA TD4.2?

I'll check out Patrol4X4 for more info.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what should I expect for fuel economy in a mostly stock NA TD4.2?

I'll check out Patrol4X4 for more info.

A properly tuned TD4.2 with a MT box will use 10L/100kms at about 100 km/hr. I have actually gotten 9.8 once with careful driving. Sink your foot into it, then it drops to more like 14L/100kms. Most Safaris coming in from Japan will need new or rebuilt injectors and to have their injector pumps tuned on a dyno. Any decent fuel injection shop with a dyno can do this. Many JDM diesel owners will tell you that with decent highway use, they actually feel the engines get more powerful. The likely cause here is cylinder wall glazing from excessive idling on Japanese roads. Running a high quality detergent oil, like Delo 400, and giving the engine a regular good workout will help remove this glazing.
 

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