chevy 6.5 turbo diesel swap thoughts

[Overlord]

Any one have any thoughts on this engine for a swap into a FJ60? How reliable is it? I've heard their were problems with electronic fuel pump, other than that, I haven't heard anything bad about it. Other than they're not as powerful as the Navistar or the Cummins, but in a 60, I think it would be just fine.

 

[cpip]

The GM diesels get a lot of bad press. They are not bad engines especially if you don't do a lot of heavy towing with them. Since you can't tow that much with a 60 this would not be a problem. The pros for this engine are parts availablity and comparitively cheap parts.

 

[bjowett]

I just posted about swapping in a Hino W04C-T... something you may want to consider? It will fit nicely, and produce plenty of power to move a wagon. Up to 150hp/300tq no intercooler, 200ish/350-400 with intercooler.

 

[jesterb]

The 6.2 is a solid motor. The 6.5 turbo is the motor that gave GM oil burners a bad name. The deep oil pan might be an issue but not for certain. What are you going to put behind it? Stock tranny? Consider a 700R4.

 

[Overlord]

I just posted about swapping in a Hino W04C-T... something you may want to consider? It will fit nicely, and produce plenty of power to move a wagon. Up to 150hp/300tq no intercooler, 200ish/350-400 with intercooler.

Thanks, I'll check it out. Aren't Toyota diesels Hino's anyway?

 

[Overlord]

The 6.2 is a solid motor. The 6.5 turbo is the motor that gave GM oil burners a bad name. The deep oil pan might be an issue but not for certain. What are you going to put behind it? Stock tranny? Consider a 700R4.

Yeah, compared the the Deramax, Navistar, or the Cummins, they're dogs. I would think a FJ60 would be quite a bit lighter than the rigs the 6.5 originally came in.

For the tranny, I was thinking nv4500 as I'm partial to manuals.

 

[Landpimp]

I thought is was the 350 gaser converted to a dsl back in the late 70's? another winner is the 4/6/8 caddy motor.......WTF was GM thinking?

The 6.2 is a solid motor. The 6.5 turbo is the motor that gave GM oil burners a bad name. The deep oil pan might be an issue but not for certain. What are you going to put behind it? Stock tranny? Consider a 700R4.

 

[cali-cruiser]

just change those numbers to 5.9 and go cummins

 

[Overlord]

just change those numbers to 5.9 and go cummins

Too much torque for stock cruiser drivetrain. Plus that engine is fricken heavy.

 

[cali-cruiser]

with a 6.5 your already talking tranny change. or you could just go 3.9

Ha

 

[Overlord]

with a 6.5 your already talking tranny change. or you could just go 3.9

Ha

I want a 5 speed anyway, so if/when I do this I'll go with the nv4500.

I would really like the 1HD-FT, but availability of parts has me worried.

 

[bjowett]

Thanks, I'll check it out. Aren't Toyota diesels Hino's anyway?

Yes they are... have a look at the Hino W04C T thread in this same hardcore section. Parts are VERY available.... Good fit, good power.....

 

[jesterb]

I would think a FJ60 would be quite a bit lighter than the rigs the 6.5 originally came in

It wouldn't matter if the 6.5 was left running while on an engine stand. Its still junk.

 

[Overlord]

It wouldn't matter if the 6.5 was left running while on an engine stand. Its still junk.

Do you have first hand experience with the 6.5? I've read mixed reviews from others.

 

[The Dude]

It wouldn't matter if the 6.5 was left running while on an engine stand. Its still junk.

and cummin's had bad block issues and the power stroke has detonation and piston slap and the 6.5/6.2 had bad injector pumps and some overheating issues. Even some of the Toyotas have big bearing and head gasket issues......

It doesn't mean their all JUNK.

I personally think 6.5TD isn't a bad swap into a cruiser. There are def upgrades that need to be done and I think that when you start adding up some of the costs it might be more ecconomical to go with a toyota swap....

just my two sense...

 

[roscoFJ73]

I dont have any experience with them but the opinions from owners in Australia seem to vary a fair bit.The most common complaint is the noise at freeway speed because the landcruiser soundproofing isnt thick enough.I laugh at the ones that threw away the 1HZ and now complain that the chev diesel sucks a lot more juice than the toyota diesel.
The owners that approve seem to be the ones that spend more time offroad.I havent seen a single complaint about the reliability.
Every week in our local car/parts trader,there is always at least 2-3 already converted 6.2 litre landcruisers up for sale,often not long converted and well below replacement cost.
The 60 arent converted very often ,mainly 105,80 and 75 series

 

[Radd Cruisers]

I dont have any experience with them but the opinions from owners in Australia seem to vary a fair bit.The most common complaint is the noise at freeway speed because the landcruiser soundproofing isnt thick enough.I laugh at the ones that threw away the 1HZ and now complain that the chev diesel sucks a lot more juice than the toyota diesel.
The owners that approve seem to be the ones that spend more time offroad.I havent seen a single complaint about the reliability.
Every week in our local car/parts trader,there is always at least 2-3 already converted 6.2 litre landcruisers up for sale,often not long converted and well below replacement cost.
The 60 arent converted very often ,mainly 105,80 and 75 series

Coming in late and heres what I have heard over time..............

The cumming is one tought SOB and will make GOBS of HP and Torgue and will last a long long time. Although fairly porky and large in size which make it a bit of a struggle to install, to bad the cruiser is such a tough install with this engine.


Here is what I have gathered dealing with the landcruiser diesels, the 1HD-FT will make 175 HP while the cummins will make 260HP in the older models prior to electronic controls.


The marine cummings will build 300HP at 2500RPM while the Yanmar(Toyota ) will prodcue 300HP at 3800RPM.

Now this is apples and oranges, myself I am very impressed with a 4.2 Litre engine producing the same HP and having he same serviceable hours as a 5.9Litre engine.

You put the engines side by side and you will be even more pleased with the overall size and positioning of components.

Dollar for dollar the toyota IMO rocks, but if budget is a constraint go with the 5.9 although you will pay the extra in installation and drive line mods.

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

I say go for it, I had a friend with the 6.5T in a Suburban. The electronics were beyond s***ty, your mileage won't be much better than a gas V8 (for some reason they never had good mileage) but I think it would kick ass. If you can get a mechanical version all the better. My buddy's Suberban went through 3 computers in 90K miles and had horrible electonics problems in the truck (wipers would turn on randomly etc). But other than that it kicked ass. It also went through a few trannies but mostly because he drove like a retard...

But I still think it'd be sweet in a 60. I need to post some pics of the 6BT in the FJ60, supposedly goes in excellently with minimal lift. It is a big heavy engine but nevertheless supposedly easier than even a 4BT because the turbo is father forward.

Also earliest models of 6BTs are 160 HP 400 ft/lbs of torque, then 200 hp, 555 ft/lbs. HTHs!

 

[Radd Cruisers]

I say go for it, I had a friend with the 6.5T in a Suburban. The electronics were beyond s***ty, your mileage won't be much better than a gas V8 (for some reason they never had good mileage) but I think it would kick ass. If you can get a mechanical version all the better. My buddy's Suberban went through 3 computers in 90K miles and had horrible electonics problems in the truck (wipers would turn on randomly etc). But other than that it kicked ass. It also went through a few trannies but mostly because he drove like a retard...

But I still think it'd be sweet in a 60. I need to post some pics of the 6BT in the FJ60, supposedly goes in excellently with minimal lift. It is a big heavy engine but nevertheless supposedly easier than even a 4BT because the turbo is father forward.

Also earliest models of 6BTs are 160 HP 400 ft/lbs of torque, then 200 hp, 555 ft/lbs. HTHs!

I stand corrected on the HP for the latest model 6BT prior to electronics.

So you are looking at 175HP verses 200HP with the bigger 6BT.

To date I have not found a 1HD-FT with five speed mounted behind it, only autos.

 

[Radd Cruisers]

One new cool engine on the market is a 6.5 diesel re-engineered in europe with a supercharger. Big claims on fuel economey and runs super clean, no turbo lag and one of the nicest torque curves I have ever seen.

Someones gotta have deep pockets who would want one of these 300HP monsters.

Check it out under USAmarine diesels.