Bucking crabbing - center diff issue

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Hey guys

am hoping this is a stupid question - and hope it's cause my car is full time 4x4


the issue I notice is , when the car is doing a sharpish turn you can hear as if the tyres are being " dragged" it's like a loud droning noise when doing sharp turns

its the same noise you get when the center diff is engaged and try to do a tight turn , but just less of a noise intensity and you can't feel any bucking

is this normal in the LC ? Am Hoping this is just the usual 4x4 full time issue where wheels can't all turn at the same speed


or do I have bigger issues to look at

I done some more checking of the "bucking / crabbing noise" , here are my findings, and hoping someone can now point me in the right direction

- When engaging the center diff button, the crabbing noise is the same just more amplified - so tells me its the 4x4 not unlocking fully
- when the car is idling , I put the shiftier ( auto) into N and hit the center diff button , normally this would make a small noise and then a clunk , now all I hear is what sounds like a relay clicking once and thats it ( the green dash light comes on)
- rolling slowly forward while in "D" and hitting the center lock button used to clunk as the gears where engaged, again no noise, the crabbing just enhances and then when the button is hit the crabbing noise just gets a little less
- I do not get any whining / whirring or vibrations when underway so I assume the differential is ok?
- The issue is prominent at low speeds under 20km/h , give it some gas and it tends to stop making the noise ( I assume cause you are forcing the tyres to slip)



only thing I have done is drained the rear diff oil and front oil

front - 85w-90 diff oil
rear 75w-140
 
I'm curious to know what you find out....I'm learning the basics of differentials myself right now, and I think i'm in the same boat as you.....my light just doesn't illuminate on the dash when I press the button.
 
Hi Grayson,

I think to be honest - I may have an LSD and we didn't put LSD oil in, so the clutch plates could be tight.

For your issue

- Do you have a center diff? or rear locker?
- When you engaged the diff / locker can you feel it locking but the light just does not illuminate, or does the locker / center diff not engage

- could be a blown bulb
- the sensor is not working correctly
- the diff's are not engaging, perhaps due to a faulty actuator, fuse, or relay


Would need more info to help

Cheers
 
Hi Grayson,

I think to be honest - I may have an LSD and we didn't put LSD oil in, so the clutch plates could be tight.

For your issue

- Do you have a center diff? or rear locker?
- When you engaged the diff / locker can you feel it locking but the light just does not illuminate, or does the locker / center diff not engage

- could be a blown bulb
- the sensor is not working correctly
- the diff's are not engaging, perhaps due to a faulty actuator, fuse, or relay


Would need more info to help

Cheers

No rear locker, just the center diff lock. I'm not 100% sure it is engaging actually, I believe it is but the light does not illuminate. I need to either get it up on a lift to see if the CDL is locking when I press the button and the light is out, or if it's not engaging at all. OR, I need to figure out what to look for on a dirt road test. Like I said I think it's engaging, I'm just not 100% sure because I've never driven anything with any locked differentials to go by from experience.

I'm thinking it's similar to this :
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/center-diff-light-out.471320/

and the link that was posted in that thread.
 
hey everyone

just to update you, the issue was caused by putting non LSD gear oil in my rear diff, after 200 KM I replaced it with 75W-90 Royal purple oil, and now it runs really smooth .

Thanks
 
Thanks for the update. Interesting that it would be that picky on the lube. I would not have thought of that one.

@Grayson Fanelli , sounds like a good excuse to join your local TLCA Chapter and go to a meeting. Others would be able to tell from experience I bet. ONSC is a strong chapter in NC that has good events and participation.
 
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