Bosch Duraterm glow plugs for a B or 3B

[Gengis]

Hi All
Are Bosh Duratherm glow plugs available for the B or 3B engine??

If so please let us have the Bosch Part number.


George

 

[roscoFJ73]

On UK ebay for the 3B 70 series. Which glow system do you have and is it 12v or 24v?


Fits from Date : 09.1988

Fits up to Date : 01.1990







This is a generic example image.

You will be supplied with the exact glow plug part number detailed on the fitting guide opposite

Bosch Part Number : 0250202095

Bosch Short Code : GLP074

Glow Plug Type : Bosch Duraterm Glow Plug

 

[Gengis]

Hi Rosco
Its a 12volt Wilson switch setup. Is you example above 12 or 24??
Where did you find the Bosch info, i have been struggeling.
regards
George

 

[Gengis]

 

[roscoFJ73]

I found it by googling and the UK ebay site came up. I tried it again by googling "Bosch Part Number : 0250202095" and its getting a lot of replies calling them "sheathed" glow plugs . Is that what a Duratherm plug is? Is the sheathing supposed to keep them warmer for longer?
Its also saying that the glow part number is the same a Toyota Avensis and Carina. I think they have 2L or 2LT engines
I think these only come in 12VOLT

Also for the Toyota Townace diesel. The auction has ended but this is the sellers email ebaysales@powersparks.co.uk

Manufacturer : TOYOTA

Model : Townace Van 2.0 Diesel



Number of Cylinders : 4

Power Output (Kw) : 76

Power in BHP (close estimate) : 72

Fits from Date : 11.1996

Fits up to Date : 12.1998







This is a generic example image.

You will be supplied with the exact glow plug part number detailed on the fitting guide opposite

Bosch Part Number : 0250202095

Bosch Short Code : GLP074

Glow Plug Type : Bosch Duraterm Glow Plug

Type Description : Sheathed-element glow plug, Duraterm

 

[roscoFJ73]

I ran the long and short part numbers on Bosch Automotive Australia and nothing come up , although they do have an 8 page pamphlet extolling the virtues of the Thermoterm glow plug.

 

[Gengis]

Ja, my post was not a dig at you Rosco, just confirming what Tom said in his, now infamous, glow plug post. Bosch documentation is just bloody useless.

The info I found below puts your part number, 0250202095 to a 12Volt 1HZ which is fine as long as the physical dimensions are the same for a B or 3B plug. Can anyone confirm this?

A little worrying, to me at least is that is gives the 1HDT the same number!! Does a direct injection engine use these glow plugs??? Could be I am not a boffin on these matters.

 

[roscoFJ73]

Toyotas own part numbers list the 1HZ and 1HD T as using the same plug but the 12V B engines are different. I think have come across this bull**** from Bosch before and the ebay sellers just copy it.

 

[Gengis]

OK, so what i have learned about dual coil glow plugs is that most manufactures make them but not all make a big deal of it.
They are all are all at or close to, the intended battery voltage.
Bosch is usless at providing information.
On paper, they are probably ideal for Wilson switch setups.
The NGK Y532J is a dual coil plug, suitable for 12v B series ans 1HZ motors , probally 2H as well but i have not confirmed.

I have yet to make the investment but probally will soon and will keep you posted.

G

 

[bj40green]

Have a look here: My Costa Rican BJ40 search begins post #244
He bought NGK Y-128T plugs for his BJ40.

Rudi

 

[Gengis]

The 128T is an 8.5 Volt plug, but definately the correct size for a B engine. I guess the BJ40 has some sort of glow controll. but not adviseable for a "Wilson switch only" setup

Any J type NGK plug is dual coil, or as NGK put it SRM ( self regulating metal)

 

[Gengis]

OK its official then.
The NGK Y532J is a dual coil ( self regulating) glow plug rated at 11V ( a little academic in dual coil plugs) and can be used in Wilson switch applications on B engines.
I started my research because I have a B or (1B whatever) with no controller, only a Wilson switch and got through a set of HKT PT145 (10.5V) plugs in less than 5 000 km and with not too many winter starts.

I like the “Full Metal Jacket" and in highly scientific tests carried out by clamping the plugs directly across a fresh battery I got:

15 seconds to full glow with the surviving PT145

6 to 8 seconds to full glow on the Y532J.

Starts like a bastard in 5 centigrade on a 6 second glow ( 1 potato ,2 potato……), and holding them on for a further 6 seconds reduced the exhaust huffing puffing and snot to almost none.

I’m off the west coast of Southern Africa soon, and believe it or not, it gets bloody cold there, so I will report back on my return.



In defence of the HKT plugs I have been having a lot of “hot start” bother where I believed it was necessary to glow the plugs because she struggled to start when hot, so they got more use than normal, and probably a few long glows in frustration at these times. Sorted that problem with an IP rebuild (low internal fuel pump pressure), but still, 15 seconds to full glow and then add another 3 plugs on a not so fresh battery??? thinks.



Anyway, I’ll report back after the trip but see no reason why this “modern technology” can’t be used in the old bangers, but obviously look out for compatibility with glow controllers.

 

[lostmarbles]

OK its official then.
The NGK Y532J is a dual coil ( self regulating) glow plug rated at 11V ( a little academic in dual coil plugs) and can be used in Wilson switch applications on B engines.
I started my research because I have a B or (1B whatever) with no controller, only a Wilson switch and got through a set of HKT PT145 (10.5V) plugs in less than 5 000 km and with not too many winter starts.

I like the “Full Metal Jacket" and in highly scientific tests carried out by clamping the plugs directly across a fresh battery I got:

15 seconds to full glow with the surviving PT145

6 to 8 seconds to full glow on the Y532J.

Starts like a bastard in 5 centigrade on a 6 second glow ( 1 potato ,2 potato……), and holding them on for a further 6 seconds reduced the exhaust huffing puffing and snot to almost none.

I’m off the west coast of Southern Africa soon, and believe it or not, it gets bloody cold there, so I will report back on my return.



In defence of the HKT plugs I have been having a lot of “hot start” bother where I believed it was necessary to glow the plugs because she struggled to start when hot, so they got more use than normal, and probably a few long glows in frustration at these times. Sorted that problem with an IP rebuild (low internal fuel pump pressure), but still, 15 seconds to full glow and then add another 3 plugs on a not so fresh battery??? thinks.



Anyway, I’ll report back after the trip but see no reason why this “modern technology” can’t be used in the old bangers, but obviously look out for compatibility with glow controllers.

I don't suppose you clicked a photo of the Y532J alongside the PT145 George?

(I know the PT145 conforms to the Toyota glow plug dimension criteria we need but decent information on those new "self-limiting plugs" is not available).

How do they compare with this?

PS. I have for a long time believed that these new-technology plugs (that heat up faster, and once hot - refuse to heat further with a corresponding fall-off in current-draw) represent an improvement over the traditional type for people with "Wilson Switch Preheat" (though of course they're no good for me with "Glow Controller Preheat" - where the current fall-off would tend to prevent my controller from glowing properly.)

 

[Gengis]

Sorry Tom

I should have thought of that earlier.

Yes I did check all the dimensions properly. They are exactly the same where it matters. 28mm flange to tip, correct thread in the correct place.