So I think I found my truck. But I have some questions and can't seem to find the answer. I am looking at a 1979 Bj 41, which I think is Japanese Market Only. What are, if any, items that are specific only to these? It is all stock. It has the 2b engine, is the jdm engine and transmission the same for all markets. In other words a 2b is a 2b no matter where it was sold. Having said that I do know I will be buying parts as I come across them, any other advice?
Thanks guys!
Specific only to a JDM RHD vehicle - lots of things are specific to the RHD, but it's a 40 series - so there is not that much that is only going to be on that model.
So, what is your actual question? I don't quite understand what information you're after.
Hey John, my understanding that the sheet metal etc is all the same between the 40s. Save for the lwb. Yes it is rhd, so I am guessing that steering etc will be specific. My question is or pertains to the drivetrain. For example, is a 2b engine and transmission built for say the North American market ( Canada) the same as one built for the Japanese market. Meaning will parts from one fit the other. Like if I need say a vacuum pump, will one fit on the other. In other words, did Toyota build one 2b engine just for the jdm, and one for other markets internally, like pistons, injection pump etc..
The BJ41 are identical to the 1979-1984 FJ40 in body and frame dimensions. The 43-44-46's are the mid wheelbase and the 45/47 are the long wheel base.
2B engine is only from japan and was never made for any other markets. The transmissions are the same across all markets as long as they are with a B series engine (different input shaft on the transmission)
in the case of a 1979 BJ41 everything but the actual block, head and internals of the engine will be the same as a 1979 BJ40 from elsewhere in the world (with RHD differences). Since the engine is a '79 it will have all of the same accessories adn setup in the truck as a B engine as opposed to the 3B in the Canadian BJ42.
Do a search for BJ41 in this forum and you will find a ton of reading on the differences and similarities.
Precisely the info I was looking for. I didn't know the 2b was jdm only. I used lwb as a term to explain that I was pretty sure dimensions were the same as a fj40 except the lwb versions. But I suppose I should be more technical about what I was referring to and not sound like a complete idiot ( laughing at myself). I did a search but I will search more. I am liking the rig more and more I am just looking for a little peace of mind so to speak.
They are great trucks. I haver the 2B in my truck right now and with a turbo, it is great. I have a pre-existing head gasket issue, but even with that the truck is still my Daily driver.
If you expect to DD this truck, you will want to get either a 5 speed, bigger tires, or 3.73 diffs as the low gearing will be a bear if you expect to go faster than 55-60mph.
let me know if you have any more questions. There was also a guy on here that just picked up a sweet 41 that is in the same learning process... maybe you two could hook up and work together as you find your way around your rigs..
The 2B engine was fitted to "Coaster" models too (besides being fitted to BJ landcruisers). And Coasters were sold internally (within Japan) and also exported. (Certainly they were sold to the "General" market but I can't find evidence of them being sold new in the USA.)
And the 2B used in a Coaster is unlikely to be the same as in this BJ41. (For instance I'd expect to see a different intake manifold and no EDIC-system on a Coaster-fitted 2B.)
Correct me if I am wrong, but the coasters you guys got were the only ones the 2B engines were sent with besides JDM. I am not sure, but I thought all of the 2B stuff was shipped used to NZ as second market stuff.
I know that with NZ law, Toyota had to allow local MFG on a lot of stuff to get into your market so models and lines have always been really interesting in NZ!
Breckenridge, thank you. I did another search and came across a post by the person I may buy this from. You gave him advice on a running issue. Seems like all was fixed. It is a bj71 soft top. So lets see how this goes. I have been researching part sources all day, doesnt seem that bad, while not cheap but any diesel is expensive regarding parts in the rare time they break down. Thanks again!
NZ is a tiny market and completely insignificant on the world scene. So I'm sure there must be bigger markets (that also fit into the "General Market" category) that got 2B-powered Coasters sold new besides us. (Australia?)
Looking at the European Market it appears they didn't get them.... So I think you're right to assume that the export market for these Coasters was certainly limited.
...I know that with NZ law, Toyota had to allow local MFG on a lot of stuff to get into your market so models and lines have always been really interesting in NZ!
I think the "interesting range of models" entered the country after that "local industry protection regime" finished. (We tend to go from one extreme to the other .) Our Government later swapped over to "open market" (instead of protectionism). And we annoyed car manufacturing industries worldwide by being one of the first countries to import used vehicles from Japan on a large scale basis. (Shiploads arriving at ports throughout the country.)
Incidentally, at first companies like Toyota said they wouldn't support these JDM-imports with spare parts. But they eventually backed down and now Toyota-NZ is actually involved in importing used JDM vehicles themselves. They now use their old assembly plants to go over everything in these used vehicles thoroughly ... replacing anything required. They then place them on the kiwi market through their Toyota dealerships here. (They are marketed here as "Signature-class Toyotas".)
Edit: .... AFAIK Toyota-NZ are only involved in importing relatively-new used JDM Toyotas and even then ... mainly cars rather than 4x4s. So I think the BJ41, BJ46 etc cruiser-models of interest to us would likely have been brought here by smaller companies (and perhaps some of them even by private individuals). We are such a small country that we don't do our own crash-testing so we wouldn't be able to exclude vehicles based on them not meeting OUR standards. (But having said that, the Government has recently intervened with some rules ... for instance to ensure that newer vehicles with better emissions standards are imported rather than older supposedly-polluting ones .... but I'm not really up with the play on all that as it stands now.)
Im positive the 2B was a hiden secret in Japan I thought the coasters were equipt with the 3B series of motors this is the first I have heard of it having the 2B interesting if true.
Cruiser9 parts for the 2B mostly have to be ordered out of Japan and are obtainable to date you will find some of the engine gaskets, manifolds, pulleys, altenator, starter are from the B motor and can be found outside of Japan.
You should not have to worry these engines are pretty dependable just make sure it has good compression numbers you want it to be in the 425 range nothing under 400 on any cylinder....also you could drop a 3B in if anything goes wrong and it will be a direct plug in swap except for the rad IIRC.
Once again I knew I joined the right group! The unknown is always a little nerve racking. I was comfortable just needed a little hand hold. That was my next question about installing a 3b. I thought they would be an almost direct drop in. As far as parts go, I did a search for major items for a worst case scenario and found everything I would need. Just for giggles, what can I expect for fuel consumption? I read anywhere from 25-30 mpg. Is that true? I am dd it so I'm not that concerned but more curious for a selling point to wife. My goal is to take delivery in two weeks. Thanks guys hope I can return the favor!
25-30 is an average as long as you aren't to hard on the skinny pedal and depending on tire size I run 235s on my 42 but it has a 5spd and 33x9.5s with a 4spd on my 44 so I can get highway speeds without the buzzer going off at 105 kph I lose a couple kpg with them but I still go a long way on a tank of fuel...I would stick with 9.5 skinnies than going to a 12.5 (cool factor) tire which has more drag and harder to turn.
A 5 spd trans could help with highway speeds while keeping the stock size tires 235s something I will do with my 44 when the purse gets a few more pennies in it....both my 42 and 44 get the same mileage with the 2 setups and all the 41s I have owned are the same as well.
My research suggests that the Coaster incorporated either a 2B or 3B engine depending on model, market, and production year. But it looks to me like the 2B engine was pretty common overall (looking at worldwide production over the relevant period).
Dynas on the other hand incorporated the B-engine as well as the 2B and 3B.
(Those models evolved just as our cruiser models did.)
I must say my question seems to spark interest in the where and what market..Thank you for the mpg info. That will help, it is better than my car! I asked the question because if I need something and I find it, I just wanted to see how different the engines were in different parts of the world. I am learning so much in a short time!
with a 5 speed, 3.73s and 'smaller' tires, you could push above the 30 mark consistently. Again, your right foot will make the difference...
That's the beauty of the 2B too... power of the 3B but the displacement of the B. It's a fuel sipper, with good power. Higher compression too so a turbo can be set conservatively and get great results.
Geez, thats fantastic. We shall see about the turbo situation if this works out. I am not big on to many modifications, but that may be one. Thanks again, and love the discussion.
4.11s. I am still stock all the way... 2B/H41/4.11/33s but I am going to 3BT/H55/3.73/33s. The thing tops out comfortably at around 55-60 mph in stock form, any faster and the noise is incredible.
.) Our Government later swapped over to "open market" (instead of protectionism). And we annoyed car manufacturing industries worldwide by being one of the first countries to import used vehicles from Japan on a large scale basis. (Shiploads arriving at ports throughout the country.) 