Behr paint

[Weedhopper]

So today a reputable painter told me today that Behr paint from Home Creepo is the best out there. ??? He says it's better than the " painters brands" Benjamin Moore and the like.

Is he crazy or did Behr get better ? I used Behr white 15 years ago to paint a rec room and it was like skim milk. I need to paint trim on the house this year and I want it to last.

 

[cwmoser]

So today a reputable painter told me today that Behr paint from Home Creepo is the best out there. ??? He says it's better than the " painters brands" Benjamin Moore and the like.

Is he crazy or did Behr get better ? I used Behr white 15 years ago to paint a rec room and it was like skim milk. I need to paint trim on the house this year and I want it to last.

I've tried Behr interior and exterior paint. To me it doesn't seem to cover well.
Last year when I painted the exterior of my house I tried Behr paint for the second time.
After using about 1/4 can and noting the coverage was not good I went to Lowes Hardware
and purchased Valspar and was pleased with the coverage. Could be that Behr paint goes
on streaky and then later dries less so streaky. Whether it does or does not Behr just annoys me.

 

[jeffro109]

I've used the upper end Behr and while you can get a good paint job, it tends to be too thin and require extra coats / technique..same for Lowes Valspar paint. It's not that great, an upper end Sherwin Williams, etc will be worth the extra $$ as will a good brush.

 

[cwmoser]

I've used the upper end Behr and while you can get a good paint job, it tends to be too thin and require extra coats / technique..same for Lowes Valspar paint. It's not that great, an upper end Sherwin Williams, etc will be worth the extra $$ as will a good brush.

Like I stated I do prefer Valspar ove Behr by a wide margin. I will say too that I just repainted the Kitchen
using all Sherwin Williams paint and was impressed with how it worked. The ceiling paint went on great,
the flat wall colored paint went in great, and the gloss white trim paint went on well too. I did have to apply
two coats to get full coverage though. A gallon of the best Sherwin Williams gloss was over $70 but they
run discounts and I got 40% off that price. Without discounts, Sherwin Williams is kinda pricey.

Decades ago I swore by Sears Best paint but it seems they are no longer relevant. I have also used Duron Paint
a few years ago that I liked.

 

[Weedhopper]

Thank you. I thought I was hearing things with this guy. First time I met him and he is a good painter.

It's easier for me to stick with the better brands anyway as the stores are closer.

 

[jeffro109]

You should expect two coats for full coverage unless it is just recovering the exact same color, primer + 2 coats for new work.

 

[FLATU8ER]

When painting wood for the outside, I will swear by Behr's exterior primer. I built a wood shed 12+ years ago, and used T-111 ply wood as the siding, and Behr to prime. That stuff "locked" up the wood and sealed it, covered screw/nail holes and covered small mistakes. It seemed to me to be almost Epoxy like. Loved it.

 

[cwmoser]

Anyone have experience with this new exterior paint called Rhino Shield?

 

[Weedhopper]

A customer did. Not good.

Not sure of all the details but the original franchise went belly up and the new guy said he would repainted the house in stages over a few years. The paint peeled almost immediately.

I think anything that gets put on to wood is only as good as the wood itself.

 

[cwmoser]

A customer did. Not good.

Not sure of all the details but the original franchise went belly up and the new guy said he would repainted the house in stages over a few years. The paint peeled almost immediately.

I think anything that gets put on to wood is only as good as the wood itself.

I had Hardi Board installed on all my Dormers and Facia last fall - along with new gutters.
This is supposed to be pre-painted with 15 year paint. Hardi Board is not that common
around here so I am wondering if this was a good choice. I went with Hardi Board for its
rot resistance - after 22 years my house's Facia had several rotting places.

 

[BrotherRob]

I had Hardi Board installed on all my Dormers and Facia last fall - along with new gutters.
This is supposed to be pre-painted with 15 year paint. Hardi Board is not that common
around here so I am wondering if this was a good choice. I went with Hardi Board for its
rot resistance - after 22 years my house's Facia had several rotting places.

I used Hardi Board on my facia serveral years ago. Very happy with it. It was a breeze to put up and still looks great. Mine was not prepainted but I painted it with Valspar exterior. I'm very impressed with the application and performance of both. I expected it to soak up a lot of paint but went on with a single, thin coat using an edging pad and still looks good.

 

[BrotherRob]

Behr has obviously improved. My uncle was in construction for 40 years and aways said he wouldn't use it if it was free. I've used it on interior walls in recent years without issues.

For anyone needing cheap paint, I understand Walmart's house brand is made by Glitton, I've always had good luck with their paint.

 

[toyotaspeed90]

In some ways it depends on the "level" of the paint, not so much the brand.

My Fiance and I have a bit of experience - at least with our house... and varying paints.

We bought the house about a year ago - and previously the bank had put some crap paint over the entire house inside (probably a really cheap, flat primer - it soaks up anything that touches it.... anything on your hands, if a dog shakes, it makes and leaves marks everywhere).... anyways.. we've gone and painted a lot of the house so far (3 bathrooms, 3 bedrooms, a small office.... most of the trim.... some exterior stuff had to be fixed and new T111 put up/painted).

Home Depot carries Behr.... we paint trim with that brand (because we painted it white, and, well.... there's about a million shades of white) only because that's what we started with.... it takes at least 3 coats to cover the wood veneer with white. It's the 2nd highest level paint they have (can't remember the name) that's an interior eggshell.

Lowes is a different story - they carry Sherwin Williams (HGTV colors), Valspar, and Olympic.

In my last house I used the top 2 in 1 paint/primer Olympic to cover dark brown with a blue/silver (light) color, and 1 coat - yes only one coat... did the trick.

My fiance keeps finding the HGTV colors - which is sort of annoying... because the paint is 'meh' at best, and is about $32 a gallon for the "Ovation" stuff.... Even to cover our s*** wall paint takes 2, sometimes/certain areas 3 coats to cover.

I don't know the longevity of the Olympic.... but I can say that once the paint is down, it seems to hold up REALLY well, especially in the bathrooms. In the past I've painted bathrooms and in the first month or 2 the paint will weep a brownish tint when hot showers are taken. In this house there haven't been any issues like that at all - including a bathroom that is used to wash the GSD's and our 2 1/2 year old son (lots of water gets everywhere, basically).

I do know that I bought some exterior Valspar - and put 2 coats over the T111.... it soaked the paint in (it was un-primered, but the paint was supposed to be paint & primer in one) and left the wood somewhat exposed during the winter. Luckily it didn't do any damage or warping, and we've since gone back over 2 more coats with a different brand, which the T111 couldn't completely soak in like a sponge.

 

[BrotherRob]

The surface you're painting makes a huge difference. An unpainted surface, especially a porous material like wood, will soak up paint like a sponge and will require 2-3 coats to get good coverage. With a painted surface, you just need enough to change the color.

One trick that works well with raw wood is to spray it with clear paint before the final coat. It helps keep the paint from soaking in.

 

[cwmoser]

What do you think about tinting your typically white color primer to the color of the final coat?

Also, when I painted my office a dark red. I used Duron paint. The Duron store clerk recommended
that I use their "red base" type paint for better coverage. That paint did cover exceptionally
well.

 

[BrotherRob]

What do you think about tinting your typically white color primer to the color of the final coat?

Also, when I painted my office a dark red. I used Duron paint. The Duron store clerk recommended
that I use their "red base" type paint for better coverage. That paint did cover exceptionally
well.

Sounds like a good idea.