AZLCA Event--Chivo Falls--Tucson, Az

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Come on out and joing the AZLCA for their November run to Chivo Falls. Details are at this site and below. http://www.azlca.net/event/chivafalls04.htm

Trip Leader: John and Becky Shotts
Date: November 13, 2004
Meeting Place: CircleK on Reddington Road (directions below)(look for us in the 100)
Meeting Time: 9:30 AM with drop dead pullout at 10AM (this should allows for Phoenix travel time.)
Pullout Time: 9:15 am
CB Channel: 8
Rating: 3.5+ (4-4+ if bypasses are not taken. There are many optional paths.)
Brush: None on 95% of the trail, very little the other 5%, some tightness if we run to the 3 Pools.

Travel time: 4-6 hours depending how much fun we decide to have. There are many play places.

I'm hoping to see all types of Cruisers, 40-100 as well as Toyota pickups/etc should any
show.

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Details: Chivo Falls is represented in the Well's book fairly accurately.
The run can be completed in any stock Cruiser though lifts and lockers will provide you with the option of running those really challenging spots. The road is rocky in places and the obstacles consist of steep grades, large ledges, straddling large rocks, and the like. Last weekend, the run was funner than ever. Those heavy rains made some washouts even washier (is that a word?). In fact, climbing out of Three Feathers we locked up the
100 F&R and took the optional difficult path straight up. The holes have been dug so deep we felt like we were on a roller coaster leaning side-to-side and aiming for the sky. Where's the video? Didn't get one. Errr!

There are 3 "main" obstacles on the run. They are:

1. Three Feathers...Near the start, you must select YOUR way downhill (then re-decide your way up on the way back). Choose from the far right (for highly modified SWB rigs like 40's), or the right (easiest, it's a 15-18-inch ledge and OK for stock), left (very difficult, for LWB rigs only with exceptional flex), or the far left crack called
The Chute (moderate to difficult though very risky if you make an error).

2. Long and very steep downhill (then uphill coming back). Pretty good pucker factor though open diff rigs can climb out taking the easier path. SEE PIC OF THE TOUGHEST PATH.

3. Loop turn-around at the road's end (at the actual Falls). Usually we park 1/4 mile from the Falls and walk in. If you like you can drive in and negotiate this loop. It requires lockers and a LWB is recommended (I've seen Jeeps roll backwards here). I've taken this loop several times and without a problem.

We'll have lunch at either the Tanque Verde Wash (often running and deep after rains/snows) or the Falls depending on our speed. If the Wash is running and time's permitting we'll pop over to the 3 Pools (a popular swimming area....hiking to the swimming pools). Some interesting 4-wheeling can be had at the actual Pools
too, especially wicked if wet).

Directions to the meeting place: I-10 to Grant Road, exit and turn East onto Grant. Take Grant for about 15 minutes until it makes a right-ish sweeping turn. Stay left around this "curve" as you'll be turning left onto Tanque Verde.
After turning onto Tanque Verde you begin by heading North then the road sweeps to an Easterly direction. Stay left at the first Y (heading towards Mt. Lemmon up and over an overpass), then go RIGHT at the next Y onto Reddington Road (McDonalds is there on the left right after the Y). Follow Reddington Road for about 5 minutes and you'll see the CircleK on the left side. Meet here.


John and Becky Shotts
 
John, it's Chiva, but great post! I've done that trail in a 40 and a 85 mini and it must be pretty exciting in a 100 :)

We still on for a road test?

Mike
 
Hee hee. I always stated ChivA too. In fact, I posted the run a while back for the Club as ChivA and ponted out it's not ChivO. Click on our site's link above. My buddy Joe politely pointed out that there is a ChivA Tank and a ChivO Falls right there together. I checked the topo map.....he was right!

Me being of selective memory loss........what road test?
 
Wow, that is amazing. I wouldn't have believe it if it wasn't there on a topo. Looks like I learned something today too. Is that first drop in section to the east (I think) of the parking area just off Redding still called "Chute" or something like that? That intimidated me quite a bit. First time was in the dark going back to that pool at the base of the falls for some relaxing moonlight. I also remember sitting at that pool and watching a patch-necked garter snake nailing canyon tree frog tadpoles at it's leisure. Have you taken the spurs that lead up above the falls?

If anyone is thinking about doing this I would highly recommend it - how's that for a plug, John?

Oh, road test a la previous post in this thread (https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=22329)
All in fun though.

Mike
 
Chivo. Yes. I want to look at a AZ Place Names book and see what it says. Curious.

Yezzz, yezzz, I remember that thread. So do I come across as a 100 advocate? Hee hee. Actually, Becky and I decided to give the 100 more rest and work the 80 out throughout the cooler season. That'll make everybody happy....no more 100 off-road pics. :D

It does make sense that something could be done to an 80 to make it run with a 100. I know Todd said his SC80 doesn't come close. I know I've rolled with another one and pulled away pretty easily. It would be something to see an 80 toast a 100. So, ya coming to ChivO?
 
Good memory Mike. The V at Three Feathers is called The Chute. Haven't tried that in either rig and never will. It's not that tough and most go down and/or up it. I know of several experts that at some point slid and trashed the entire side of their rig. No thanks! (Besides, the straight up climb is tougher for large rigs.)
 
John,
I would dearly love to come over and hang out in Tucson for the weekend but I'm heading to Pismo this weekend for Jim Brantley's Surf-n-Turf and with the holidays just around the corner that already exceeds my allowable quota of trips for Novemeber and likely December!

I also remember being able to drive a certain amount of the old Prison Camp road from Redding going over towards Molino Basin. Is that still open? I think the last time I thought about going over there (Tucson) was when I heard most of Mt. Lemon burned. Man, that cafe that served the pies up there was sure a loss.
Mike
 
Good memory. Hes, it's open though I haven't done it all the way. I will be going back to do all that this season.
 
Damn, if I wasn't flying out for the CO outing next weekend already.....
 

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