Good day to all members. I believe all is well and good on your side?? Members, please assist , I am currently busy designing /planning a 4x4 off -road trailer . The wheels on the Land Cruiser 100 series needs to be interchangeable . I will have two spares on the Cruiser as well as two spares on the trailer . I now need to order a custom made axle for this build..since in SA they do not sell trailer axels with 17" inch rims . Please provide the exact length of the axle I will be needed to ensure the trailer tow precisely in the center line of the Land Cruiser 100 series track.
Axle length measurements needed to order a Custom braked axle for my Land Cruiser 100 Series 4x4 camping trailer
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Not to be a wise guy, but can't you just measure the rear end length on your own 100?
Does the width even matter? You just want hubs with a 5x150 bolt spacing with 110 mm center bore diameter and studs that are 14 x1.5. Using those specs you should be able to use any 100 series wheels with the advantage that the wheel nuts should all be the same as well.
We have our Camper Trailer with the same track width as the 100 series, as we go to places like Fraser Island (K'Agari) and Moreton Island (Mulgumpin), which are sand. It means the trailer follows the tracks of the tug.
IIRC the track width of the rear axle of a Hunjy is 1,615mm.
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Depends on whether it is a 100 or a 105. The 105 rear track width is 1615mm. Track width is measured at the center of the tire tread. I imagine it is a 105 but if it is a 100 (IFS), the wheels have a +60mm positive offset and so you would have to add 60+60mm=120mm and then add that to the 1615 mm. 1735mm trailer axle width.
My old trailer had the same track width as my 100 and it was indeed very nice on sand but also on trails with trees and rocks. Didn't need to look in the side mirror as much because the trailer's wheels followed the 100's wheels quite closely.
My old trailer had the same track width as my 100 and it was indeed very nice on sand but also on trails with trees and rocks. Didn't need to look in the side mirror as much because the trailer's wheels followed the 100's wheels quite closely.
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Yes, this is the reason , I need to achieve two things.
1) All the wheels need to be 285 /70/17R , there will be two spare wheels on the Cruiser , as well as two spare wheels on my trailer I am designing and building. Four of these rims are steel rims all the other is standard rims the Cruiser came with . The steel rims I bought later from a person who sold it from a Cruiser 200 series, the steel rims.
2) I want my trailer to do one thing exceptionally well : to drive in extremely thick sand of the Botswana /Kalahari regions.
3) It needs to have a very high road clearance and low body with a 55lt water tank and 55lt diesel tank low down on the axel.
The mechanical driven raised tent will be integral part of the body in the trailer box while the lid will be the roof of the tent when raised via a internal small winch 12v 500kg/three meters high lift capability
Only luxury will be a National Luna dual battery system.
Still the most important being tracking exactly in the track of my Series 100 Land Cruiser ..As mentioned, the axel will be custom build , I am sure the axle company will want to take their own measurements from the Cruiser..but I would like to know the measurements to double check their measurements ..
LC100 rear track width is 1,615mm. Red Book is the industry guide here in Oz.
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Members, thank you kindly for your input, it is much appreciated. I am considering building a set of independent axles...instead of buying a solid custom made axle . I do have all the equipment to build this type of axles . Please give me your opinion about this idea, if possible please provide a link to a independent axle build by our members ??? Thank you kindly again..
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I was wondering why you were using a straight axle... mine was independent and worked well. Better ground clearance too (at the center). I think the biggest drawback would be it is more complex and finding somebody to repair it (in the bush) could be more difficult. But if you can repair yourself, then it would be a better choice, IMO.
I didn't build it myself. It was a Kimberley Kamper, same as pic below. IIRC, the brakes and hubs were from Dexter and they make them in 5x150 in Australia.
I didn't build it myself. It was a Kimberley Kamper, same as pic below. IIRC, the brakes and hubs were from Dexter and they make them in 5x150 in Australia.
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Hoser, thank you kindly for the info, it is much appreciated for sure. I am leaning toward the independent axle build..I can repair it myself if needed since I am building it myself ...I know where to purchase square tubing with six millimeter wall thickness and a similar square tubing that will slide into the outer tubing..so it will be extremely strong A-frame independent axles....my challenge being finding hubs with 5x studs with the same PCD as my Land Cruiser 100 series with brakes as well..it need to fit a 285/70/17R wheel as on my Cruiser 100 series ..it will be a shock /spring system like yours as well
I have Dexter 5 x 150mm hubs with 12" electric brakes on my trailer. However they have 9/16 UNF studs as standard, so these were replaced with Toyota M14 press-in studs.
Tyres are Hankook Dynapro ATM2 275/65R17 LT with 121 load rating. Very robust and tow well, including at 20PSI in sand.
Tyres are Hankook Dynapro ATM2 275/65R17 LT with 121 load rating. Very robust and tow well, including at 20PSI in sand.
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I am now contemplating what the current off-set is of the 17" rims are on my Cruiser , I have to measure the off-set of the VX 200 steel rims I bought a while ago to use on the trailer I want to build, since I need to swop out tyres/wheels when getting more than one flat tire ..Willyroo, I currently have 285 /70/17R tires on the Series 100 Cruiser ..With the independent axles it would be easy to adjust the width of the wheel/rims on the axles with the square tubing A-FRAME design
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If this is your main goal, I would focus on building the trailer as light as possible. I don't know the terrain out there, nor the real frequency of flat tires but (4) spare tires seems a bit excessive to me. And the more weight, the more likely to get flat tires. I would maybe consider two full spares and two tires only (no rim). Use split rims or beadlocks on the trailer so you can change tires easier. You would have to be in a big bind to go to that extreme because this would only be necessary after you've exhausted the two full spares.
You can also carry things like inner tubes and fishing line to patch sidewalls. There are a few product offerings out in the US for repairing sidewall tears on ATV vehicles that could be used on off road vehicles.
You didn't say whether you had a IFS 100 or a Solid axle 105...
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Hoser, it is the Land Cruiser 100 series VX IFS version...the reason why I can fit two wheels extra is I already have a wheel carrier at the rear of the Cruiser as well as the standard spare wheel. I am balancing the trailer through fitting the one spare wheel at the front between the load bin and the nose cone ..the spare wheel at the back will be a swing away.
Above the axles I will fit 1x 60lt diesel tank on the right hand side of the axles, as well as fit another 60lt diesel tank on the left side (rear of the axles) that will be part of the trailer frame . In the center of the load bin exactly above the right hand diesel tank and the left side diesel tanks in the frame I will fit left/right another two 60lt water tanks.
The integral mechanical winch tent will be build in the top of the low box with the roof /lid of the trailer being the roof of the tent...that is all ..nothing more ...the awning will be fitted to the side of the trailer tent roof and the two solar panels fixed to the roof of the tent. all weight low down on the axle/frame ....here is a photo of what the trailer will look like ..difference being the trailer roof top tent will be inside the trailer and be hoisted via a 12 v winch build in as well.
Above the axles I will fit 1x 60lt diesel tank on the right hand side of the axles, as well as fit another 60lt diesel tank on the left side (rear of the axles) that will be part of the trailer frame . In the center of the load bin exactly above the right hand diesel tank and the left side diesel tanks in the frame I will fit left/right another two 60lt water tanks.
The integral mechanical winch tent will be build in the top of the low box with the roof /lid of the trailer being the roof of the tent...that is all ..nothing more ...the awning will be fitted to the side of the trailer tent roof and the two solar panels fixed to the roof of the tent. all weight low down on the axle/frame ....here is a photo of what the trailer will look like ..difference being the trailer roof top tent will be inside the trailer and be hoisted via a 12 v winch build in as well.
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The LC200 steel wheels have a +60mm offset just like your 100 series wheels.
I'd consider relocating the standard spare tire and installing a 122L fuel/55L water tank in it's place. This way, in case you have to detach the trailer, the fuel and water is with you. Also, much easier to transfer fuel (push of a button). If the swing-away is just for the spare tire, I'd try an alternative approach. Swing-away in itself is a lot of extra weight.
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I'd consider relocating the standard spare tire and installing a 122L fuel/55L water tank in it's place. This way, in case you have to detach the trailer, the fuel and water is with you. Also, much easier to transfer fuel (push of a button). If the swing-away is just for the spare tire, I'd try an alternative approach. Swing-away in itself is a lot of extra weight.
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Hoser, I currently have a 140lt diesel long range tank system in the Series 100 Cruiser. When going for long trips I will remove the back passenger seat, install a 50lt water tank on the floor and place a 16mm marine ply sheet so my wife and me can even make a bed to sleep in the Cruiser..we are not the tallest people I know...there is already a drawer system with a 80.5 lt Snowmaster fridge /freezer running on a National Luna dual battery system as well as an extra Grey Battery Power Box from National luna that is portable as well as a 1000 watt inverter in the rear of my Cruiser ..
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I really like the replacement water/diesel tankThe LC200 steel wheels have a +60mm offset just like your 100 series wheels.
I'd consider relocating the standard spare tire and installing a 122L fuel/55L water tank in it's place. This way, in case you have to detach the trailer, the fuel and water is with you. Also, much easier to transfer fuel (push of a button). If the swing-away is just for the spare tire, I'd try an alternative approach. Swing-away in itself is a lot of extra weight.
122L Fuel 55L Water – Replacement Combination Fuel And Water Tank | The Long Ranger
4WD Fuel & Water Tanks
