A question of durability

[dnp]

I've read these forums enough to know that Toyota reliability is virtually second-to-none. Along that line of reasoning, is there any reason that I should refrain from running my LX pretty hard? You see, my State, without a single doubt, has (collectively) the worst drivers you'll ever run across. The left lane is ALWAYS the slowest, and no one ever gives me the impression that they're really going anywhere in particular. As such, I find that I have the right pedal "matted" much more than I would, say, if I lived in other surroundings........

I use Mobil 1, Toyota oil filters, Red Line in the diffs and T-case, run premium gas, and always keep the air filter changed properly; therefore, should I have any concern about really running this truck as hard as I do? Not necessarily for extended periods of time, but due to its could-use-more acceleration characteristics, I seem to be in the 4,000+ RPM range many times during a normal day..............Anything to worry about?

dnp

 

[jp213a]

No. Although rapid acceleration is hard on gas mileage, it won't damage the engnie if you keep the RPM's under red line and don't overload the vehicile. The engine is designed to withstand these RPM's and loading. This is even more true in a state as flat as Mississippi where there isn't the added engine load of climbing hills. The real killer is dirt and debris in the engine that comes in many forms including earth & sand, metal particles, and products of combustion (soot). Changing the fluids and filters at the proper interval is the key to long engine life and the proper interval is determined by the driving conditions the vehicile is exposed to.

 

[macneill]

Just as long as you keep the ECT button on "Power" you should be fine. ;p

 

[SINCITY100]

Just as long as you keep the ECT button on "Power" you should be fine. ;p

Huh ?.....

The single MOST IMPORTANT thing to insure the durability and economy thru the entire life of a Toyota is quite simple....

If you allow the engine to warm up at a reasonable rate (or speed) during the initial "cold start".... you can drive a Toyota engine and drivetrain any way you want, without failure, gas mileage, or power loss..

Although I regularly fail to practice the above advice myself, I can tell you (this is from owning over 15 Toyota models over the last 20 years).. that properly warming up the vehicle will enhance the lifespan of its main components BIG TIME !

Toyota engines are designed to run at full throttle NON-STOP under a load for over 200,000 miles (providing, of course, that lubrication remains with-in specs)..without ANY major failure or excessive wear ..

I have put numerous Toyota products to the test...and I have easily reached 100-300,000 miles on the original drivetrains, even though I drive , ( can we be frank here?)...like a total ass!! The engines (and especially auto trannys) have been able to oulast my need for the type of vehicle I had purchased time and time again...

O.K....now its my 100 L/C experience...I purchased this rig with approx 60,000 miles on it , I can only assume that it had all scheduled maintenance from day one performed, but without obvious abuse (the undercarriage was SPOTLESS, and it was driven normally, it appears)..

Heh, Heh...now its my turn to drive....I have driven this thing relentlessly...Heavy off-road use with deep water crossings and extreme dust... High speed downshifts....near red-line rpms for miles on end up steep hills....loaded to the hilt with equipment on open Nevada highways at or near the rev limiter...constant manual shifts and downshifts...stop and go aggressive driving in heavy city traffic ... 4wd low- 1st-2nd-3rd revving the crap out of the motor with the radio up too loud to hear the motor screaming ...sheer abuse as far as I am concerned...And now @ 120,000 miles , it runs just as it did when I got it, with the same mileage and ZERO oil consumption....

My point is, dont worry about losing reliability in your 100 by driving it hard, as long as it is kept up with the normal maintenance (and proper warm up !) , It will more than likely run for a VERY long time with no issues...you know how everything is "over-engineered" on an L/C in the first place?..it doesnt stop @ the suspension or frame...it is the whole truck, and even though ALL Toyota products across the board are the most reliable vehicles on the planet, I think the 100 takes it to another level !!

This aint your dads LAND ROVER baby !!!!

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Huh ?.....

The single MOST IMPORTANT thing to insure the durability and economy thru the entire life of a Toyota is quite simple....

If you allow the engine to warm up at a reasonable rate (or speed) during the initial "cold start".... you can drive a Toyota engine and drivetrain any way you want, without failure, gas mileage, or power loss..

Although I regularly fail to practice the above advice myself, I can tell you (this is from owning over 15 Toyota models over the last 20 years).. that properly warming up the vehicle will enhance the lifespan of its main components BIG TIME !

Toyota engines are designed to run at full throttle NON-STOP under a load for over 200,000 miles (providing, of course, that lubrication remains with-in specs)..without ANY major failure or excessive wear ..

I have put numerous Toyota products to the test...and I have easily reached 100-300,000 miles on the original drivetrains, even though I drive , ( can we be frank here?)...like a total ass!! The engines (and especially auto trannys) have been able to oulast my need for the type of vehicle I had purchased time and time again...

O.K....now its my 100 L/C experience...I purchased this rig with approx 60,000 miles on it , I can only assume that it had all scheduled maintenance from day one performed, but without obvious abuse (the undercarriage was SPOTLESS, and it was driven normally, it appears)..

Heh, Heh...now its my turn to drive....I have driven this thing relentlessly...Heavy off-road use with deep water crossings and extreme dust... High speed downshifts....near red-line rpms for miles on end up steep hills....loaded to the hilt with equipment on open Nevada highways at or near the rev limiter...constant manual shifts and downshifts...stop and go aggressive driving in heavy city traffic ... 4wd low- 1st-2nd-3rd revving the crap out of the motor with the radio up too loud to hear the motor screaming ...sheer abuse as far as I am concerned...And now @ 120,000 miles , it runs just as it did when I got it, with the same mileage and ZERO oil consumption....

My point is, dont worry about losing reliability in your 100 by driving it hard, as long as it is kept up with the normal maintenance (and proper warm up !) , It will more than likely run for a VERY long time with no issues...you know how everything is "over-engineered" on an L/C in the first place?..it doesnt stop @ the suspension or frame...it is the whole truck, and even though ALL Toyota products across the board are the most reliable vehicles on the planet, I think the 100 takes it to another level !!

This aint your dads LAND ROVER baby !!!!

Wow, this sounds like me. Did you cut and paste this from one of my old posts?

 

[dekuiper]

Warm up?

If you allow the engine to warm up at a reasonable rate (or speed) during the initial "cold start"....

So...what is proper warm up?

 

[macneill]

By the time the ignition key snaps back to the starting position, you should have it in gear and floored.

Actually, I thought I read somewhere, 1-minute?

 

[reffug]

By the time the ignition key snaps back to the starting position, you should have it in gear and floored.

Actually, I thought I read somewhere, 1-minute?

I like your first answer. It has style.

 

[macneill]

Had a buddy in high school with a Duster - slant six I and swear he had that thing in D and rolling before the ignition key even snapped back. Thing ran forever.

 

[SINCITY100]

Wow, this sounds like me. Did you cut and paste this from one of my old posts?

LOL.. Its nice to see others enjoying the "sport" in their "utility vehicle" as much as myself...!!!


That Is exactly why I will never own anything but a Toyota....I beat the crap out of my vehicles... I do, however, feel VERY sorry for anyone who buys a "previously owned" car of mine...lol....

As far as warm up is concerned...I think that as long as you start the engine, let it sit @ idle for maybe 10-15 seconds, and then accelerate mildly until the gauge is @ the halfway point, you are doing a lot of good towards the long-term happiness of the truck (and its owner)...its really just a matter of letting all the internal parts expand and lubricate @ a consistant rate....THEN GO LIKE HELL !!!

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

LOL.. Its nice to see others enjoying the "sport" in their "utility vehicle" as much as myself...!!!

It's kinda funny. 3 years ago when I lifted the 100 the FIRST thing I said on line when people asked about how it drove?????

I said "it drives like a friggin sports truck". A "BMW Cruiser".
I guess that showed that until the Cruiser, all I had were sports cars.

 

[SINCITY100]

Yep..Besides, there is NOTHING quite like tossing a 6000 lb vehicle around violently on the city streets, terrifiying everyone in your wake !!...lmao....

 

[NMuzj100]

Ideally you should let the engine oil get up to operating temperature and pressure before placing a load on the engine. But if cold it can take 15min or so to get the oil to operating temp (about twice as long as getting the coolant to temp). The oil pressure should be ok 15-30 seconds after starting.

For a long,enlightening and inconclusive discussion check out this thread on BITOG.

Start-up Wear...What's the Truth

 

[macneill]

Yep..Besides, there is NOTHING quite like tossing a 6000 lb vehicle around violently on the city streets, terrifiying everyone in your wake !!...lmao....

Yeah, but seriously, how fast do you really need/want to go? You wanna whip something around, why not get a sports car? Plus how much "sports car" feel are you really getting from 230 ponies?

Tossing a 6000lb vehicle around violently on the streets terrifying other people is exactly how I see a lot of "other" SUV owners driving. They drive like they're in a car. Forgetting a lot of the basics of the handling/acceleration characteristics on an SUV.

If I wanted to drive like a nut, then I would not have gotten an LC.

Just my two cents.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Yeah, but seriously, how fast do you really need/want to go? You wanna whip something around, why not get a sports car? Plus how much "sports car" feel are you really getting from 230 ponies?

Tossing a 6000lb vehicle around violently on the streets terrifying other people is exactly how I see a lot of "other" SUV owners driving. They drive like they're in a car. Forgetting a lot of the basics of the handling/acceleration characteristics on an SUV.

If I wanted to drive like a nut, then I would not have gotten an LC.

Just my two cents.

SINCITY's OK. He's gota 2000 so he's got VSC.

 

[macneill]

SINCITY's OK. He's gota 2000 so he's got VSC.

Phew... good thing. He might lay a patch without it. ;p

 

[SINCITY100]

Phew... good thing. He might lay a patch without it. ;p

LMAO !!!....

Yeah, besides...I call the 100 my "insurance"....If I do lose control and fly off the road, at least I wont hurt my undercarriage !!!... ...

Just kidding BTW about the "tossing violently" part...I do try to keep my rig going in a forward facing direction , while keeping my hands and feet inside at all times !!....