I am ready for the hate. I have owned 4-4-Runners, 1 Land Cruiser, CT, 470. My Land Cruiser was stolen and I gave my wife the choice on a vehicle on a used car lot. She picked a 2014 RR. Fast forward 4 years into RR ownership, we are looking at another vehicle so we tried a 2016 Land Cruiser with 126K miles for 50K. I will preface this as we do 90% road miles, I missed everything about the RR. It is so smooth, so powerful, the sound is great, the steering and AWD is amazing. Having the air suspension is the way all cars should be. The Land Cruiser was a gutless wonder on the freeway 13 mpg, the tech is 80’s, and we did a lot of maintenance on both the RR and LC. The depreciation on the RR is crazy, but I am having a hard time going back to the Land Cruiser, can anyone who has owned both coach me through this? #bougie
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No hate.
Your wife likes RR. You like RR.
Its a free country - go buy a RR
Your wife likes RR. You like RR.
Its a free country - go buy a RR
Agreed. Different mindset. Personally I'd never buy one.
I had an LR3 V6 for about 10 years. It ran great, and was a comfortable/smooth ride. At the end of my ownership , the expensive issues started cropping up and I had the itch to get something else. Don't miss the kind of gutless performance even though I never had problems with the 4.0. 4WD was slick. My '08 feels like a heavy armored pig in comparison, but it scoots along better and doesn't need premium, thank ****.
How long do you plan to keep it for? How many miles are on the RR and how many miles do you plan to put on it? If the Rover is already at the point in it’s life cycle where it will need some of the higher $ maintenance/repairs plus taking a bath on depreciation then it wouldn’t make sense for me.
At the same time it seems you need to be prepared for a valley plate leak and starter at least on the cruiser. The good thing is it will retain it’s value.
If money is of no concern drive what makes you and the wife happy.
At the same time it seems you need to be prepared for a valley plate leak and starter at least on the cruiser. The good thing is it will retain it’s value.
If money is of no concern drive what makes you and the wife happy.
I moonlight as a driving instructor for Defender and Range Rover, and I recently spent a couple of weeks in Canada driving a 2025 Range Rover Long Wheelbase with the twin turbo V8. It's truly next level refinement, and I love the refinement, sound system, massaging seats, and pretty much everything about it. It's shockingly good off road, and the air suspension and rear steer make it good at pretty much everything.
The main thing keeping me from buying one isn't the perceived reliability - our program vehicles have been surprisingly solid even after hundreds of hard drives back to back. My biggest issue is the depreciation, and while the newest gen has been holding their value pretty decently, it's nowhere near the insanely low depreciation of the Land Cruiser. Perfect example is this ad I was served this morning that speaks for itself:
The main thing keeping me from buying one isn't the perceived reliability - our program vehicles have been surprisingly solid even after hundreds of hard drives back to back. My biggest issue is the depreciation, and while the newest gen has been holding their value pretty decently, it's nowhere near the insanely low depreciation of the Land Cruiser. Perfect example is this ad I was served this morning that speaks for itself:
Nothing drives like RR. If you buy to keep for a while go Rover.
Wife has a LWB rover and it’s the ultimate mom car- car seats have plenty of room and do not interfere with front passenger seat recline.
Wife has a LWB rover and it’s the ultimate mom car- car seats have plenty of room and do not interfere with front passenger seat recline.
Is a LR3 a real RR, especially the kind of people that start this thread?
Dont forget the head gaskets and radiators as welll.
Well it was made in England. It had some Ford DNA. So technically: maybe? Splitting hairs...
I was a shop assistant at an independent Land Rover shop and my boss was never short of work.
I’d never want to own one but you can’t deny they drive great.
I’d never want to own one but you can’t deny they drive great.
I dont know
To me Defenders and RR are for rich white folks
Its something I will never be - so I dont bother with it
I hope you never have to drive a 100 series
My apologies. Great vehicle, awful engine. The 4.0 SOHC was junk in Ford products, put it in something that weighs #1500/#2k more and it's even more awful. The 4.4 AJ is actually a pretty decent engine. My LR3 runs circles around my LX470. Will it make it to a million miles, no, but unlike a 200 with a 3UR it won't need headgaskets tomorrow
No, I paid $1500 for mine. No rich white folk is driving a LR3 in 2025. They are too reliable and actually half decent, and thankfully don't fit into anything modern JLR offers. I do still want a L322 though.
The photo speaks volumes of Land Rover ownership to me. Not mine, but at a shop I drive past each day during my commute. Notice its license plate.
I went to the DIY car wash the other day where the poor White folks live. There was one stall available so I drove in. Getting quarters I see a RR in the stall next to me. Fast forward after filling up at the local spring water hole, I see that same RR still sitting in that same stall... Went to wash it and from all looks of it just left it.
LR changed something on the 4.0 I can't remember, the heads or block or something from what I've been told. It never gave me any problems other than wanting premium. The whole thing just ran and ran w/ little fuss which is why I kept it around for a decade. I never drove one w/ the V8 so I didn't know any better, probably for the best. LR guys say the '13 LR4 is the best one, last of the V8's /madmax
Real RR owners lease and never go to self service car wash
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So I pulled the trigger on the 2016 LC, 10 minutes off the lot there is a terrible squeal, assuming serpentine or tensioner. I am a two banana mechanic at best . I have nothing bad to say about the RR, we bought the RR in the 40K range and the main issue we had was when a mouse decided to try and make a home. Looking forward to the next chapter. I discovered RR when in high school valeting cars in Aspen. We used to try to see what the cars could do in the snow and the only car we could not get stuck were the RR. I have a feeling we will end up back there, but looking forward to this chapter. Favorite car is the next car!
Grew up driving a Series 2 LWB 5 door wagon and had it till I bought my first Land Cruiser new - an FJ60. I too was an instructor for The Land Rover Experience back in the early 2000's. Bought a new 2000 Discovery (they would not let me drive my 100), installed an ARB bumper, full ARB suspension with 2” lift, 12,500lb winch, front and rear ARB air lockers, and drilled a hole through my brand new center console to do the center diff lock mod. It was a great vehicle for teaching professional athletes and doctors how to drive their new Range Rovers in the mountains. Kept it only as long as I taught - 4 years. Needed multiple new transmissions, 4 new windshields (the expensive ones with the imbedded heater element), and the valve cover gaskets leaked. Sold it in 2004 and never ever considered a Land Rover product again.
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